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Thank you skeettx, saw that earlier, just did not look far enough through the pages. Nothing appears to be pre drilled.
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The blanks were mostly pre-turned by an outside wood monger, before they were delivered at the factory. Anything really special came in as a dry, unturned blank. The LOP was trimmed to be a little long, and the turned stock was fixtured in a lathe at the correct angle, and a two step drill did the hole at the precise angle.
I had a custom stock fitted to my R10, Herve roughed it down to about what the pre-turned stocks looked like, taking big, scary cuts with a spoke sheave, was duck soup to him. Then it was drilled, bolted to the gun, and about two hours later, unbolted and off to the checkering studio.
The problem with stockwork, even in France, is getting the hole right. Youve got one try.
If you can get the hole right, at the beginning, I suspect a Darne might be a very easy gun to restock. That is the only gun Ive ever seen being restocked, and I have no frame of reference, but, it went quick on my gun.
Best, Ted
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If you could get Bob to give up his secrets, you could probably save some money by transforming a stick of black walnut into figured French Walnut: Total Stock Blank Transformation: How is it done?
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Anyone with a pantograpgh can duplicate an existing Darne stock. The hole is drilled ahead of time and becomes the axis upon which both the pattern and the blank are turned. Same way a Ballard or any through bolt gun is done.
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It isnt a through bolt. It is a wood screw with a straight shank that interference fits with the hole in the wood. The wood screw has machine screw threads down the hollow inside, that receive a screw from the action side, holding the action into the wood. Most of the guns have an elegant, rounded wood to metal fit in that area, that complicates the fitting. The hole was drilled AFTER the stock was rough turned, at the factory. I was there. If it was easy, it wouldnt be a problem getting a stock made for a Darne. But, it is a problem. Yes, it can be done. But, there are few volunteers, here, or, in France. Here is a live one, a guy looking for the work. You do wood work, SKB, right?
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It has been sometime since I have had a Darne stock off the metal but I seem to recall the setup you describe Ted. I would need to look it over but I think I would still put my hole in first and use it as a reference. Sometimes the way things are done in a factory is not practical in a small shop, building jigs etc. I have plenty to do right now including running a few client patterns. Depending upon demand and profitability I could be talked into it.
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Last edited by prairie ghost; 12/16/19 09:06 AM.
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Bingo.
Drill the hole before you start shaping things so you have all those flat square surfaces to work with.
Use the hole as your datum line.
Sounds like everything pulls forward along it.
Then, just remove all the wood that doesnt look like a Darne stock.
Out there doing it best I can.
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Even bOb could never love a bumpur zack...
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Thanks for all the answers. The existing stock is intact, but really ugly, so I will leave it as is.
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