doublegunshop.com - home Forums General Discussion DoubleGun BBS @ doublegunshop.com Anyone here see the movie "Revenge"??

Watched it for the first time last night with Mae- she's not a big fan of the late Jim Harrison, Michigan based author: "Legends of the Fall" etc. The Mexico area based story he wrote "Revenge" is a novella- and actor Kevin Costner directed and starred, along with Anthony Quinn, in the movie production.

What struck me as strange, as Quinn's character, El Tiburon- "Tibby", a wealthy Mexican drug load, sent a pair of double shotguns, as a retirement gift, to the USAF base where Costner's character, a retired 'Nam era Phantom pilot, was based- Costner was also, in the movie, a tennis "hustler"-- and unlike the movie script, he met "Tibby" on a tennis court, and did not save him from a near fatal hunting accident.

When Costner gets to Tibby's ranch, he has the two guns in slip cases, and later on in the dialogue, Tibby tells him: "We will plan a trip to Italy, and get those fitted properly" Costner hasn't yet shot them-- Just wondering why a wealthy Mexican drug "kingpin" would order doubleguns from Italy, and not from Spain?

Anyone care to venture a guess?? Also, in the novella, Costner's dog is a female English Setter named "Doll"- not the yellow Lab as shown in the movie-- details, details, details-- Also, FYI- Tiburon is Spanish for shark- and the late actor Anthony Quinn is not of Greek origin, as it might seem from his role in the movie:"The Guns of Navarone"- He was born in Spain- El Zorro

A real revenge is Auburn 48 vs Alabama 45( sorry about the ot guys, just a chance to get a "War Eagle" into the conversation).
Mike

Harrison, along with others, Hunter S. Thompson, etc, was the kind of writer that seemed to think it was important for the reader to know how much and what kinds of illicit drugs they had been taking that week.
Those were the kinds of writers that, having read that, I immediately lost interest in their work, and quit reading.

Best,
Ted

Maybe yes, maybe no, oh Tedster from the North Country. Jim loved grouse and woodcock hunting with his Setters-and he had a 12 ga. Purdey, somewhat like that GBE inherited from Dr. Norris (back in the day)--Most folks don't know this, but when Jim arrived in Hollywood, to promote his novellas for motion picture production- he was almost broke- He borrowed 15 large from Jack Nicholson, repaid that loan in cash plus a "Vig" (amount unknown) and became from that a close friend of Jack-- That act makes him a true "stand-up guy" in my book--RWTF

So much for the concept that Nick Sabin can "walk on water"-like the late "Bear Bryant" apparently did--RWTF

I may be primarily of English and Scottish descent but, if I had the money and was buying a gift of a matched pair of guns, that doesn't mean I would automatically buy them from an English maker. Suggesting Quinn's character wouldn't buy guns from an Italian firm, that he should have bought from a Spanish firm, makes no sense.

Mike, a better result would have been for both Saban and Gus to have lost. I thought Saban was going to have a stroke at the end of the half and game. Go Dawgs. Gil

It wasn't my train of thought- I was mainly concerned about Quinn's Character in the Movie buying a pair of double guns for a friend and tennis doubles partner, w/o having his basic dimensions for the maker to work from, and then taking the finished guns over to Italy for the fitting- after the fact, so to speak, made no sense to me. Of course, I have never owned either a matched pair of English/European mfg. shotguns-most likely never will-RWTF

neva mind quinn an cosner...watt bout madiline stowe? sum times ah wunder bout youse guys..

No need to be concerned, Eddie B. Goode-I fell in love with Madeline Stowe when she co-starred with Sean Connery and Donald Sutherland in "The Great Train Robbery"-- I'd take her to anywhere she wanted in Italy for a "fitting" or two--Wowser, Wowser, Wowser-- RWTF

I know you don't get this on your own, so I will attempt to explain it once. When you use improper grammar and incorrect spelling incessantly it loses it's "cuteness", or charm. There have been great authors who have properly written their text in a dialect that was useful for the story at hand. None of them used it constantly, not even Joel Chandler Harris, author of the Uncle Remus stories. When it is used without discretion, or need, it becomes sickening. There is a parallel with this and with using profanity in writing (or speech). Used sparingly, and carefully, it makes a valid point and can be useful. Used without rein it is vile and boorish, and displays a lack of imagination.

Attempting to set yourself apart from the "masses" by your constant misuse of a mixture of dialects does exactly so ................ but likely not with the effect you would wish for.

Yeah, ed. Work on your spelling. It�s youze.

(watts wid all de fookin� dots, Stan????????)


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Well, you certainly have denied yourself some great writing over the past 30 years. Very little if any drug use in Harrison�s works.

Well said, Stan. I doubt if our "friend" Ed comprehends your message, nor will take it to heart. My favorite writer on guns and hunting/shootin' - the late Nash Buckingham, used dialect in many of his earlier stories, the best example I can offer is "The Shootin'ist Gent'man"-- for him, and in the era in which the story took place, it worked- today, perhaps, not so much.

But, to be realistic, my friend, I doubt if Ed grasped your phrasing in your "on point" message. Guess we'll just have to tolerate Ed, as we must do with "Ho-Jo", the Gent'man from the same Volunteer State as the late T.N. Buckingham hailed from- RWTF

Gil,
I thought he was going to have a stroke several times. Losing to his old team LSU was bad enough, but to lose to Auburn in the same year really got to him. The problem SEC teams have is they have to play SEC teams. Pat Sullivan died Sunday, I hope he was able to see or hear the game; or at least able to understand when they told him about it.
War Eagle!

Not only is HoJo from the same state as the Late Nash Buckingham he is also from the same area, ie Memphis. I too am from the Great State of TN. There are however parts of S Ca, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi & Kentucky that I live closer to than Memphis.

When HoJo is on the topic he normally has some good info, sometimes a bit brutally Honest for some folks liking, but so often correct.

Ever since I first read Nash he has been a favorite of mine. First item of his I can recall ever reading was Field & Stream ran his story "Great day in the Morning" back around 63 years ago where I read it in my High School library. I graduated from HS in '56.

I have never been "To Memphis" but have gone through it a couple of times.

sum o you guys are so self possessed, that you are really no fun...

an youze is correct, if you are in the bronx...youse in indicative of queens...

Memphis has some interesting places to visit. My grandsons and I spend an afternoon there when we hunt across the big muddy, on the L 'Angjille, each year. They love to wander around in the pyramid Bass Pro, we have supper at The Rendezvous. Hope to take them to the DU Museum this winter, if they get to go with me.

Nash B. is one of my favorites, too. I have the set of his books, six or seven, can't recall. Getting to spend time with Bo Whoop was a highlight for me. Shouldering the big Fox and looking down the same barrels he did was pretty cool. I have hunted with my HE Fox on the Cache River, very close to Trappers Island, where he also hunted with his. Have also hunted with my HE at another of his old haunts, Beaver Dam Lake, at Tunica.

SRH

Country bumpkins.


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No sleep �till...Brooklyn!

I hate to hear that about Pat Sullivan. I watched him win the Heisman between the hedges in Athens when he lit up UGA tossing the ball to Terry Beasley. Those two Auburn greats died too young. I had seen interviews of Terry Beasley and he really paid the price for playing football with concussions over the years. It was sad to see. Another Auburn great used to come by dad's office when the Auburn graduate was a young officer in the Marine Corps at Parris Island. Name? Vince Dooley. Gil

Gil,
I missed that game, I was building bridges for our Vietnamese friends in the Mekong Delta. I heard of Vince Dooley, didn't he coach or something? Mike

Hey now, don't go hating on Gus! I was gonna pull for your mutts against LSU, but I ain't gonna do it if Dawg fans are going to put Gus in the same category as Saban.

But it could actually benefit Auburn for uga to win, so I guess I will anyway. If uga wins, that likely gets 2 SEC teams into the playoffs and maybe bumps Auburn up to the Orange bowl. War Eagle!

I didn�t think it could get any worse than King�s hockey babble. I was wrong.

Go Bucks! (and I hate THE Ohio State)


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Jumbo!
https://youtu.be/ffLydZiYFEw

I don't like an Ohio State either, or college Big 2 sports for that matter.

The best show is Washington.

Mrazek (a European) should be banned and Marchand should be suspended 3 games for this soccer worthy dive. Swing a stick at Jumbo�s legs and you can expect a punch in the face. Guy acted like he got shot.

https://youtu.be/KQME1X9pFhs


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You don�t have to read it. Argo44
(heck, it�s just now getting interesting)

I hope Clemson gets punched in the throat.

https://youtu.be/TP9hHnPjYH8


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THE Ohio State. (Big 10)

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It�s a fun and easy way to make money.


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Miami Vice
https://youtu.be/UXeope6l09g

Do you then look out the window and enjoy the dumpster fire that is Detroit?

Best,
Ted


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Santa Marta is nice, this time of year.

My window faces Windsor, Ontario.


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Tim, you gotta bee on you throat!
(see Woody Hayes video above)
((Michigan has Alabama in the Citrus Bowl-good luck))

You say that like it might be better?

Get real.


Best,
Ted

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Way better coffee in Santa Marta. No Tim Bits.