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Originally Posted By: Lloyd3
Seeing lots of o/u's. They make sxs too?


Stay far, far away from their O/U guns. I've never seen one yet that didn't have mechanical issues. The S x Ss that I have had dealings with are unbelievably reliable for a cheap gun. And, they look pretty darn good. They have a lightweight alloy action with steel internals that allows the mass in the gun to be on the ends, which belies the overall light weight and causes them to handle more like a real game gun than just a lightweight feather. The Turkish walnut is better than any base American walnut, and the internals are polished and finished to a degree that far outruns the price.

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Lloyd, here is a link to the gun at the only company I am aware of that imports and retails them. They are available in other gauges and barrel lengths, according to individual store availability. Mine happens to be a .410 with 28" tubes.

https://www.academy.com/shop/pdp/yildiz-410-side-by-side-break-open-shotgun#repChildCatid=1650831

And a link to the company webpage that shows what is available from the company.

http://www.yildizshotgun.com/tr/cifte_i.html

Best, SRH


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Appreciate it Stan. The 12 is listed as 6.1 lbs(!). Only 1 trigger though...

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A friend bought a couple of Yildiz 20ga O/Us a few years ago for his boys, and the guns have been trouble free. On sale, they were under $400 each and seem to be a great deal.

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The wood on the Yildiz shotguns are worth as much as the 500 you pay for them.

The first year they were sold in America by Academy I bought a .410 sxs, a .410 O/U and a 28 gauge O/U and a 12 gauge sxs (with 4140 alloy steel action; zero trouble with any of them. Seems like I may have bought the 28 gauge the second year they were available as I had to find a store that had one of them as they were scarce.

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Originally Posted By: Lloyd3
Appreciate it Stan. The 12 is listed as 6.1 lbs(!). Only 1 trigger though...


Yeah, but it's a good one, not necessarily so on their O/U guns. I only did a trigger job to lighten the pull. It has never failed to function, and I've shot it on "hot" dove shoots, used it on quail and hauled in in my farm truck and killed poisonous snakes with it. Through it all, the trigger has functioned perfectly.

The degree of polish and workmanship on the trigger internals has to be seen to be believed. I was used to messing with vintage American doubles, and a very few British, but when I disassembled the Yildiz my jaw dropped. The parts are so well polished they all look like stainless. I was not prepared for what the technology employed can do without much manual labor. Amazing. Wish I had taken some good pics of the hammers. sears, etc. Hate to take a box lock apart just for pics, now.

Just a suggestion, SRH


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The CZ Bobwhite is another well made durable Turkish gun with a MSRP of $655. It can be bought from various online sources. Academy is brick and mortar sales only and stores are in the South.
https://cz-usa.com/product/cz-bobwhite-g2/

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I recently picked up a pretty decent Ithaca SKB Model 100 20ga for $850. They remain my nominee if you're talking best gun for the money under $1,000. They've been around for over 50 years now and have a solid track record. Miroku-made Charles Daly is another good choice under $1,000. Mark's Zephyr Woodlander might well get you the most bang for your buck at $500. Made by V. Sarasqueta, a good Spanish maker.

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Another option would be a Miroku or Daly Model 500. Ive acquired two around the $500.00 mark by trolling the net. A great upland gun for wing shooting.

Another thing to consider is if, in the event your friend hunts the low hanging fruit, all he really needs is a single shot 12Ga. Those can be had for $100.00 or less.


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nca225: As a practical matter, you're right, a single shot that fits well and has a decent trigger will do the job all day long. However, this young man is interested in a double (and for all the reasons that presumably... the majority of us here are as well). I meet so-few young people that even give-a-hoot about such things. I'm hoping to have some good suggestions for him so he can walk the same trails that so-many of us here have walked to arrive at a point of appreciation for a good or "fine" double. The Miroku and/or the Daily are good suggestions, thank you for them.

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