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I have here a new Citori CXS. New as in 2 flats fired.
It's a nice UN-ported 12ga. It has remarkably good triggers at an ounce either side of 4 pounds, which is better than most out of the box Brownings. It's not going back to Browning for this little problem I have with it because they would return it (after a good long while) with 6.5 pound gritty triggers just like they did my Cynergy. I've learned that lesson.
When the lower barrel is fired first, the ejectors behave properly.
When the upper barrel is fired first, if only that barrel is fired, the gun only extracts. If both barrels are fired, both barrels eject normally.
I'm not in a huge hurry to take off a new recoil pad just to have a look-see.
Eventually, when I do pull the stock any clues what to look for?
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No expert here OK, my opinion, lubrication issue, the ejector trip rod and cavity needs cleaning and re-assembled. May have some grit or metal from the manufacturing process in the cavity. Numbers 26 & 27 https://www.gunpartscorp.com/gun-manufac...t-citori?page=5Mike
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Its not a lubrication issue Ejector is binding Not setting off as it should
Had same issue with a brand new pair Book an appointment at your local browning #Warranty Center, and the whole job will take them about 20 minutes
How is the force required on the top lever?
Thats another system that needs some stonework if the effort is too high
Out there doing it best I can.
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Does it eject if you "force the gun open when at is maximum ? With any new gun there can be a little working in that was not obvious in the factory when those who check them when finished can be a little heavy handed in the opening and so throwing the gun open as opposed to opening it may well have had the ejectors working .
There are two things which I would look at first , had the gun come to my shop , 1 dried up oil causing stiffness in the trippers . 2 that there is some drag/roughness on the ejector kicker/trippers in the forend so they are not camming cleanly , that may only just need to be polished to cure .
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Jones, Browning shows a few "authorized service centers" in MI. Bachelders is one. I'm betting they wouldn't mess with the trigger pulls.
My experience with exactly 2 late investment cast (525) Citoris is that they are very rough inside. The trip rod and hole might be drilled rough or it could be in the forend as suggested earlier.
Last edited by Chuck H; 10/08/19 07:27 AM.
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Well... thanks for the tips so far.
I had a 525 apart once to put a spring kit and firing pins in it. It didn't seem particularly rough, as opposed to my Grade 1 Superposed that is positively ugly inside.
The gun does not eject the top barrel as described above no matter the opening force. The top lever is as expected on a new gun.
The curious thing is how both ejectors trip if both barrels are fired.
It's unclear from just the diagram how the ejector trip rods are actuated.
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Thank-you for the links.
I see the ejector rod is driven by the hammers, and I also see 2 independent systems.
The gun functions the same with or without shells, with or without recoil.
It gets curiouser and curiouser.
You don''t suppose they built it this way intentionally, do you?
This is not my first Citori... I admit to not reading the book that came with the gun and it's up in the attic with the box.
Can't be intentional, can it? Who would think this is a good idea?
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Pull off the stock, assemble receiver barrels and forend, and observe the behavior of the ejector tip rod in action via slow opening and closing.
I had a similar problem when a gunsmith put the rods in the wrong order, left to right side and vice versa.
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Eventually, I will pull the stock.
Likely not anytime real soon.
This is one of those things where you just say....
"This can't happen".
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