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Wonder if he used Tannerite to stuff those balls with a "flash-bang" experience? RWTF
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Wonder if he used Tannerite to stuff those balls with a "flash-bang" experience? RWTF Fox, I doubt a shotgun would set off the tannerite?...Geo
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You are probably right- thought I saw some Tannerite blocks for exploding rifle range targets on sale at Gander whatever a while back--With all the crazy pipe bombers extant, even selling reloading powders might be a tad "risky" today-- I still have a few BP 12 gauge paper shotgun loads- fun to shoot in a SC event, so I have been told. I'll do some more EOD recon and see if I can figure it out- No spark, so must be some form of concussion detonator-- No "sympathetic detonation" either--we shall see- always like a good research quest. Foxy
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I have a little 44-page booklet, titled "The History of W & C Scott Gunmakers. This was written in 1983 by Patrick G Whatley & John A Crawford.
12 gauge pigeon guns are listed as weighing from 7 to 8 lbs with barrels of 27˝" to 30", Half or Full chokes. These "Usually" had 2 3/4" chambers & handled up to 1Ľ oz shot. Options included a Half-Pistol hand, cheekpiece, Monte-Carlo stock, Silver's recoil pad & Side-clips.
Wildfowl guns were made in 8, 10 & 12 gauges with barrels of from 28" to 36" but are not listed gauge specific. Chambers were 2 3/4" or longer & in 12 gauge used 1Ľ oz of shot.
Heavy Wildfowl guns in 12 gauge weighed 9 lbs or more & handled up to 1˝ oz of shot.
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1893 William Read & Sons catalog "Regulated for 45 to 48 grains Schultze or similar Nitro powders, and 1 1/4 oz. Shot" would be 3 1/4 - 3 1/2 Dr. Eq.; the usual turn-of-the-century Live Bird load  I don't know the composition of "Scott's Special Steel" but it was very likely Siemens-Martin steel at that time.
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Foxy, next time I see Jon I'll try to remember to ask him what he used. This happened before tannerite ever hit the market shelves.
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Keith and JOe seem to have a way to destroy a good pigeon gun thread. They should restrict their disruptions to less interesting threads/
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Unfortunately low resolution image of the listing in 1904 - 1914 W.J. Jeffery & Co. catalogs courtesy of Boyd Taylor Thompson  The Jeffery “Long Range” hammerless “Waterfowl” gun was available in 3” chambers that “can be used with from 4-5 drams of black powder and 1 3/8 to 1 1/2 oz. of Shot” in the “Perfect” cartridge. Either “good quality Damascus” or “Herakles” Compound Gun Barrel Steel could be ordered. Wt. 8-9 #. 2 3/4” chamber “Pigeon” loads were 1 1/4 oz. with 3 1/4 to 3 3/4 Dram Black Powder or “the equivalents in Smokeless Powder”. I think the weight is listed as 7 - 7 1/2 #
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Thanks, Stan. I had some basic EOD training, at USMC Camp Lejeune, Courthhouse bay facility- Plus on a family farm in Southern Ohio- I learned from my Grandfather how to "blow stumps and boulders" with "DuPont persuasion sticks"-- Back then, the local hardware store sold it to farmers, also fuse-- the dynamite was kept in the basement, packed in sawdust in large wooden crates--Not today!! RWTF
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I couldn't agree with you more, Bill. Wish they would move to another web-site. Both these "clowns" could foul-up a wet dream. RWTF
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