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Originally Posted By: keith
Mr. Dean,
You go on embracing those who are stabbing us in the back. I'll keep calling it like it is.



Well, thats not exactly what Im proposing. I think if we listened more closely to them we would know better what were up against... what the enemy is thinking and proposing, so we would know better how to mount an offense. Wouldnt you agree that we are ALWAYS put on the defensive by the socialist libs?

I just think we should keep our friends close, but our enemies closer... without entirely alienating them.

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Originally Posted By: DAM16SXS
Originally Posted By: keith
Mr. Dean,
You go on embracing those who are stabbing us in the back. I'll keep calling it like it is.



Well, thats not exactly what Im proposing. I think if we listened more closely to them we would know better what were up against... what the enemy is thinking and proposing, so we would know better how to mount an offense....

The problem is that they will sound like they have decorum and civility if left unquestioned. Reread what nca said, for all his sharing, all it came down to was to either vote like he does, or tough luck if you dont like it. They arent proposing, they are demanding.

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Um, I'm pretty sure we, most of us, already know where they're coming from. You are right to acknowledge that they are our enemies. They have been playing the divide-and-conquer game for decades, and as a result, we are still always one or two elections away from losing more of our firearms and freedoms.

Did you notice where nca225 said that it is Republicans who are always using fear as a weapon to keep power? From my perspective, it seems that game is a favorite tool of anti-gun Liberal Left Democrats. The number of people endangered by mass shooters is miniscule compared to people killed by drug overdoses, medical mistakes, teens texting while driving, etc. But liberals zero in on our gun rights by stoking fear. How about the evil Republicans who were supposed to push Grandma over a cliff and steal your Social Security? Oh my, lead shot is killing eagles... even though the eagle population is growing. Then there's climate change and many other red herrings. Talk about fear... did you hear the professor on CNN a couple days ago who claimed Trump would kill more people than the millions killed by Hitler, Mao, and Stalin?

Sorry Dean, we should know who these people are by now, and what their game is. Keeping them close only encourages them and helps them to stab us in the back.

Anyone who embraces them is part of the problem.


A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.

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Originally Posted By: L. Brown
....Craig, can we assume that you know the mechanism by which the Constitution can be amended is a bit more complicated than "a popular vote"? It's not like the anti-gun people could put a measure to repeal the 2nd Amendment on the 2020 ballot, and if it were to pass by a majority, then 2A would be repealed.

I suppose youre trying to impress on me how difficult it would be to amend the Constitution? Maybe, you could address your thought to King, to put his popular vote claim into perspective?

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Americans voted Democrat more than Republican in the last election. Polls show guns are not an existential issue with Americans. Last time I looked it was fifth or sixth place on their minds. My guess is jobs and healthcare takes precedence, shared both ways. Humans are complicated creatures. Enemies talk is silly. Miller, Stan and Geo express opinions different from mine but I would treasure being in their company. I'd learn a few things.

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I've stayed out of this topic, until now. Being that I have been mentioned, I will chime in. I just asked my sweet wife how she would rank health care, jobs and gun rights. Without any input from me she replied ...... "Gun rights first. Without the ability to overthrow a despotic government, and defend ourselves, the rest don't really matter". Every year that passes I am more glad I convinced her to marry me. Damn, what a woman!

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Originally Posted By: Stan
I've stayed out of this topic, until now. Being that I have been mentioned, I will chime in. I just asked my sweet wife how she would rank health care, jobs and gun rights. Without any input from me she replied ...... "Gun rights first. Without the ability to overthrow a despotic government, and defend ourselves, the rest don't really matter". Every year that passes I am more glad I convinced her to marry me. Damn, what a woman!

SRH


Stan, as I have said many times to those struggling to get clarity on the subject of gun regulations.....they are the proverbial canary in the coal mine of governments.

A party or politician's stance on gun rights tells you all you need to know about them. The way they think and how much they will pander and prostitute themselves for votes.


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What Stan said wouldn't make me feel differently about him as a person. Same for his wife. And you, too, James, you Upper Canadian Tory!

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Well said, James.

I also think it significant that my wife absolutely never frequents gun forums. She's never been on one. She has come to her conclusions on her own. She is an independent thinker, and a brilliant one, at that.

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Polls CAN BE & MOST OFTEN are manipulated to result in any desired outcome. I pay Absolutely no attention to the vast majority of polls.

I did a short while back take part in a mail-in poll. You can BET THE FARM on the fact I gave the 2nd Amendment TOP PRIORITY.


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