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#552973 - 08/17/19 02:55 PM Re: John Dickson hammer double in 500 BPE [Re: rocky mtn bill]
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Originally Posted By: rocky mtn bill
Your rifle appears to me to be in completely original condition and to have had little use. The partial stamp on the water table is just poorly struck. From the appearance of the breech face, I'd say it's been shot very little. Any imperfection in the bores is likely the result of poor cleaning. Enjoy.


How wonderful Bill.

What makes me think it received little use, other than the breech face, is the horn butt plate. Too bad the worms got to it, as its checkering (flat diamonds) is crisp, and the engraving on two retaining screws is undamaged.

I also had a chance to weigh the rifle...9 lbs even on the digital bathroom scale.

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#552988 - 08/17/19 06:18 PM Re: John Dickson hammer double in 500 BPE [Re: CJF]
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The worm damage is not hard to repair with properly colored epoxy.
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#553006 - 08/17/19 10:06 PM Re: John Dickson hammer double in 500 BPE [Re: rocky mtn bill]
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Hey Bill - would you recommend trying this myself, or an expert I can send it to. I can't shoot it till I address this challenge.

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#553007 - 08/17/19 10:20 PM Re: John Dickson hammer double in 500 BPE [Re: CJF]
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How about a picture of the Damage? I can likely repair it for you.
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#553008 - 08/17/19 10:32 PM Re: John Dickson hammer double in 500 BPE [Re: SKB]
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Hey Steve - Here's what the butt plate looks like. There's significant damage to the toe of the plate and undercutting voids on the sides at points, but here's the back.

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Along with a poor picture of the rifling (this makes the rifling look awful...it's actually quite shiny.)

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#553009 - 08/17/19 10:34 PM Re: John Dickson hammer double in 500 BPE [Re: CJF]
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And a few more gratuitous pics

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#553010 - 08/17/19 10:35 PM Re: John Dickson hammer double in 500 BPE [Re: CJF]
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One of the coolest small details is that the firing pins are still blued, which you can see till you pull the hammers back to half cock. Both where the striker hits, and the extruding pin when the hammer falls are blued.


Edited by CJF (08/17/19 10:41 PM)

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#553011 - 08/17/19 10:47 PM Re: John Dickson hammer double in 500 BPE [Re: CJF]
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I have repaired several horn plates but that one is too far gone for me to attempt. Might be time for a new plate. In the mean time try a sip on pad for load development.
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#553019 - 08/18/19 07:54 AM Re: John Dickson hammer double in 500 BPE [Re: CJF]
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That looks to be a very fine rifle in nice condition. Worth having the horn butt plate replaced. Spend the money and bring her back to original standard. Hope it shoots well for you. Take it hunting!(Deer or red stag would be perfection!)

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#553026 - 08/18/19 12:30 PM Re: John Dickson hammer double in 500 BPE [Re: CJF]
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For some ideas what one man did to get his Dickson shooting look at this link (scroll down to CptCurl May/14/2017):
https://shilohrifle.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=25117&hilit=50+140&start=15
I don't know if the photos will come up for you but in the one of the Eley 1893 Catalog note that the Nitro for Black powder charge (BP 142 grains - SP 54 grains) for the 440/480 grain bullet is a little under 40% of the BP charge which fits in with the oft quoted 40% using 4198 (is it?). Also note that his in in the 3 1/4 inch version.


Edited by HalfaDouble (08/18/19 06:01 PM)

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