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#546428 - 05/22/19 09:48 AM Anyone Familiar with a 9.3x58R Sauer Cartridge
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Registered: 12/11/06
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Loc: Warrington, PA
During a visit with a dealer buddy last evening, he pulled out a German hammer double rifle chambered for what he described as a Sauer proprietary cartridge of 9.3x58R. It's a lovely, relatively lightweight little piece, with minimal engraving and fairly plain wood, but in wonderful condition for its age (proofed in 1914 according to the markings) and I'm interested in it. I've been unable to locate any information regarding the cartridge. All Mike could tell me was that he thought the cartridge could be formed from 9.3x72R.

So, is this a cartridge any of you out there are familiar with?

Thanks.

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#546431 - 05/22/19 10:37 AM Re: Anyone Familiar with a 9.3x58R Sauer Cartridge [Re: Remington40x]
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9.3x58R Koeffler made from .45 NE

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#546439 - 05/22/19 01:21 PM Re: Anyone Familiar with a 9.3x58R Sauer Cartridge [Re: Remington40x]
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Bavarianbrit:

Do you have any information on ballistics, standard bullet weights, etc.?

Thank you.

Rem

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#546441 - 05/22/19 02:19 PM Re: Anyone Familiar with a 9.3x58R Sauer Cartridge [Re: Remington40x]
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Best I could find for a Sauer cartridge

A chamber cast sure seems to be in order

Nominal Cartridge Parent Caliber Neck Shoulder Base Rim Rim Case Total Case DWM Roth NAI NAI NAI Balistek
Caliber Name Case Blt Dia. Diam Diam Diam Diam Width Lngth Vol. Cap. No. No. Code No. Ratio Code


9X58.5 9X585 Sauer & Sohn 9.3X82R 0.357 0.385 0.433 0.498 2.29 RM 5.29


www.castpics.net/subsite/Conversions/Conversions.xls



Edited by skeettx (05/22/19 02:25 PM)
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#546452 - 05/22/19 03:49 PM Re: Anyone Familiar with a 9.3x58R Sauer Cartridge [Re: Remington40x]
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Skeettx:

Thank you.

Rem

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#546458 - 05/22/19 05:08 PM Re: Anyone Familiar with a 9.3x58R Sauer Cartridge [Re: Remington40x]
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Remington40x,
Skeettx is correct that your rifle is chambered for 9x58 1/2 R S&S. The confusion comes from two things. First, the most common source of donor brass to make cases from is the 9.3x72R.Cases made from this brass usually retains the 9.3 head stamp. Second, I have a friend that has an ED. Kettner double rifle made by Sauer in this caliber before 1912. The bore diameter is marked in the pre 1912 system(gauge) and is shown as 118,35 which is also found on a great many 9.3s of different case lengths. This is a pretty uncommon, but fun, cartridge that makes a useful deer rifle. In power, it is very similar to the 360 2 1/4"( 9.3x57R), but rather than a neck, the case is straight tapered like the other more common S&S cartridges( 8x48/58R, 6.5x48/58R, 6.5x40R, etc).
Mike

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