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Its a shell built using the Cheddite hull. If your gun or guns had issues extracting them, theyd probably have issues extracting ANY shell built using the Cheddite, including but not limited to RSTs. Seeing how pretty much all Cheddite hulls are built the exact same way.
And why on earth would you use shells that have corroded heads? That in itself would more than likely lead to extraction issues in any gun. Good lord.
On the flip side, my shooting buddy has shot oodles of those Italian Herters loads in 16 gauge, I never witnessed an issue. He gets about 4 to 5 reloads out of the hulls too before theyre trashed. I myself have popped off around a thousand or so of the 12 & 20 gauge loads without a hiccup as well. Even a finicky Franchi 48 chews em up and spits em out. Thats saying something.
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Corrosion on steel head shells is a known storage issue.
They certainly were not shipped from Italy that way.
I've been sold corroded Winchester shells from Bass Pro, and corroded Fiocchi shells from Guns Galore.
Brass head shells are not immune from storage related deterioration either.
The steel head shells do not age well in paper boxes in any environment above 50% or so humidity.
Considering the stuff likely gets here in a shipping container on a boat it's amazing the condition on delivery is as good as it usually is.
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There is a Remington Gun Club 16. loaded with an oz. of 7 1/2 and $8 a box. Not a wide selection and a bit pricey for large volume shooting. Those Herter's shells were the thing I bought from Cabela's after the take over. No reason to go there ever again. No Gun Club 16's, but there are Rem Lead Game Loads in 16ga: 1 ounce, 6-7 1/2-8. The hulls reload pretty well, but I happened to find a good reloading recipe for 7/8 oz in Cheddite hulls, and I have several flats of new Herter's to shoot up. No problems at all with them in several different 16's I've used. But looks like that may have been luck of the draw. So far, haven't found any corrosion on the heads.
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Its a shell built using the Cheddite hull. If your gun or guns had issues extracting them, theyd probably have issues extracting ANY shell built using the Cheddite, including but not limited to RSTs. Seeing how pretty much all Cheddite hulls are built the exact same way.
And why on earth would you use shells that have corroded heads? That in itself would more than likely lead to extraction issues in any gun. Good lord. ...
I have shot thousands of Cheddite hull loads in my Fox 16 and it works flawlessly with them. I loaded from a fresh box of Herter's shells and did not inspect the heads with birds coming in. After the problem ejecting the first load, I inspected ALL the shells in the flat and about half were corroded. I had to sort out the ones that were usable and sperate them from the corroded ones. OF COURSE I DID NOT CONTINUE SHOOTING THE SHELLS WITH CORRODED HEADS. GOOD LORD! I put this on the vendor who sold them.
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How does the vendor who sold them control shipping conditions in a sealed cardboard case? Gimme a break. I put it on you, who loaded your gun with shells that had corroded heads. Do a better job of paying attention to detail and look at what you put into your gun before loading it. Even by your own admission the shells with out corroded heads ran fine, yet you pull no punches disparaging the entire line of Italian made, Cheddite hulled shells that work fine for 99% of the people whove used them. Corroded bases on these newer steel based hulls that are brass or zinc washed is not uncommon. Check em before you load em.
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