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Rocky Mtn Bill perfectly illustrates the liberal mindset. First, our betters in the government know what�s best for us. If we don�t agree, we are immature, irresponsible and exhibit poor judgment. Second, in order to satisfy the government�s insatiable appetite for revenue, our benign government overlords have to confiscate wealth from those who have earned it so the government can give it to more deserving groups

When you're sitting in court for an NFA violation, they are going to get very technical about what a machine gun is and how it operates.

That's why it is important to follow the mechanics of an item and not how it looks or feels to someone, anyone. Doing that is very arbitrary and is only relevant to the person looking or feeing.

But any of this is not the way to address the issue of controlling crime.

To control crime you control criminals.

If controlling guns is your goal, then you control guns.

Seems like a fairly simple concept to me.

If I learned anything in my job, it was that nothing happens spontaneously or in a vacuum. Somebody ALWAYS knows about anything BEFORE it happens.


Alan

Bill, are you familiar with this writing of Pastor Martin Niemoller ?

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out�
Because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out�
Because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out�
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me�and there was no one left to speak for me.

O.M

The 1996 "National Firearms Buyback Program" took 660,959 firearms out of private hands[1] comprising long guns, mostly semi-automatic rimfire rifles and shotguns as well as pump-action shotguns, and a smaller proportion of higher powered or military type semi-automatic rifles. Because the Australian Constitution requires the Commonwealth to pay "just compensation" for private property it takes over, the Government increased the Medicare levy from 1.5% to 1.7% of income for one year to finance the buyback program. The buyback was expected to cost $500 million.[2] The payments from the Commonwealth were conditional on the States and Territories introducing firearms laws and regulations consistent with the National Firearms Agreement.

O.M

Summed up perfectly. Completely comprehensible Craig.

As usual, Craig, your logic is faulty. Liking my guns wouldn't rule out the possibility you're a moron. And there are morons who don't like bumpstocks. People who own and enjoy firearms ought to be more resourceful in defending them and at the same time more creative in finding ways to diminish their misuse. The automatic assumption that all gun regulations are merely an intro to general confiscation is stupid and merely an excuse for not thinking seriously about lessening gun violence.

As usual Billy, your logic is faulty. Anti-gunners with your Liberal Left mindset say pretty much the same things about many other firearms as you say about bump stocks and military style semi-automatics.

For example, many Liberal Left anti-gunners have argued for years that semi-automatic "assault style" rifles are "weapons of war", and have no useful purpose besides killing people. You have made statements in the past that agree with that opinion.

Many Liberal Left anti-gunners have argued for years that handguns are useless for hunting and only good for killing people.

Many Liberal Left anti-gunners have argued for years that detachable magazines of certain capacities they consider excessive are dangerous, and should be banned. Don't many FUDD's like you think that we don't really need those 10, 12, 20, or 30 round magazines?

Many Liberal Left anti-gunners have argued for years that cartridges such as the 5.56 m/m or .223 Rem are designed for war, and can penetrate police body armor and have much higher velocity than dangerous handgun ammunition.

So if a .223 or 5.56 m/m is too powerful Billy and dangerous, where does that leave you and your .308, or .30-06 or 7 m/m mag?

In recent years, these same Liberal Left anti-gunners... the politicians you support... have been arguing that scoped bolt action rifles, such as the rifles you personally approve of, are super-dangerous sniper rifles.

So tell us Billy... using your flawed and faulty logic... do you present yourself as a moron when you own and shoot scoped bolt action rifles that many of your own Liberal Left consider to be dangerous sniper rifles which are unsuited for civilian ownership???

Who makes someone with logic as flawed as yours the arbiter of what firearms are Constitutionally protected and suitable for law abiding citizens to own and shoot??? And just what are you doing to diminish gun violence... aside from voting for the Liberal Left Democrats who work relentlessly to ban them all??? The "automatic assumption that all gun regulations are merely an intro to general confiscation" is not stupid, as you say. That assumption comes when Democrats like Barack Obama and Barbara Boxer come right out and publicly say that we don't need any guns or that they would round them all up tomorrow, if they could. It would be both moronic and dishonest of you to deny that fact.

Same can be said of silencers but those are on the NFA list. I have lost zero sleep over this ruling. If a more useless device has been invented I have not seen it. About as useful as good sized hole in your head.

As stupid and useless as bump stocks are, I�m not sure banning a device this simple to make is good law. Anybody who wants a bump stock can cobble one together.

I've grown so cynical. Gun control has nothing to do with reducing crime or violence. Confiscation and bans aren�t an immediate threat either. Nope, the sole purpose of gun control is to annoy target shooters and hunters. Create barriers and obstacles that discourage people from participating in shooting sports and then your whole deplorable gun culture shrinks away in a couple generations. It's all just to annoy you.

Ryan may be right, they sure are annoying me...Geo