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Originally Posted By: HomelessjOe
I sent Dave a PM about it...in the mean time keep whining about your ltitle manly pellet...


So you did then exactly what you are complaining JR did to his thread. You had your own thread deleted. Classic case of hypocrisy.

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Originally Posted By: HomelessjOe
Be careful your post may be raptured up...


Seems a lot of the threads I知 in get raptured up or locked.

What痴 one more.


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I知 beginning to wonder if any of you guys know the real Frank Cox. In terms of all things turkey, Frank has won high level competitions with his box and trumpet calls, not only for his ability to make these calls, but to properly use them as well. In other words, making them sing such as a natural turkey would sing. His calls are coveted by turkey hunters far and wide. Competition is not everything, but it sets a bar. Frank Cox has surpassed that bar and that constitutes expertise in the realm of turkey hunting, imho. So, his opinion on everything turkey, and whether or not abrasive in style, should at least be considered. How many of the rest of you have made a coveted call that sold for as much as $2,000 at auction? That alone tells me a lot. Frank himself tries to keep his prices out of the stratosphere so that people of lesser means can obtain one of his calls. That tells me a lot about the man. Once his calls leave his possession is when we see the coveted calls going for huge money. So, there you are. When it comes to turkey hunting, I知 going to listen to an expert.


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Thank you frank for this wonderful insight into yourself. None of this excuses your bloviating on this website however.

Anyone can make a turkey call that will call in a turkey. Even me. Many times over.


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Only one question: what is a .410TSS?


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Well BrentD, I知 not Frank Cox. My name is William McTurnan. I知 glad to hear you can make a turkey call. You can bend stocks too, rust blue barrels too, but does that make you an expert? Will a BrentD turkey call bring $2,000 at auction like a coveted Frank Cox call? Yeah right! One thing I致e noticed here is that Frank never brags about his fame in the turkey hunting world.....and he IS an expert in that field. You, on the other hand brag about doing all sorts of things. You have so much brass you even try to convince a stocking expert on what oil to use (I think you said to use Canola oil) for hot stock bending, as opposed to using linseed oil. And, you strut around pounding your fist on the table trying to convince others to 適eep your donation in you pocket as your tag line clearly states. I致e never seen Frank stoop to a low level such as that, and I致e never seen him brag about his high quality calls. You, on the other hand are bragging that you can even make calls. I suggest you enter your calls in a national competition and see how far you get. When you win, then perhaps someone will listen to your nonsense.


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Originally Posted By: Perry M. Kissam
Only one question: what is a .410TSS?
Tungsten Super Shot for use in a .410 shotgun


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Thanks Buzz. I just remembered that Google is My Friend and discovered what the TSS round was just prior to seeing you answer. I gotta admit it sure sounds like something that is working. I would not have guessed it, but the tests by very folks I am reading about in various guns does not seem to lie! If these shells do this to turkeys I wonder how they would be for large upland game like pheasant? Anybody tried this yet? If not, what load is used by 410ers for upland game? BTW, if anybody thinks this should be a new thread I will move it.


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The Federal .410 is just 1100 fps
https://www.rogerssportinggoods.com/fede...oz-1100fps.html

Apex has upland loads in 12g No. 9s (1550 fps!), 20g No. 9s & 3" .410 9.5s, and all out of stock Perry
We'll see what they have come fall.
https://apex-ammunition.myshopify.com/co...0-fps-10-rounds
https://apex-ammunition.myshopify.com/co...-qty-10-per-box
https://apex-ammunition.myshopify.com/co...z-9-5-box-of-10

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Originally Posted By: Perry M. Kissam
Only one question: what is a .410TSS?


Its a very hard pellet....here's the pellet weights.

A TSS 9's pellet weighs 1.2grs. and 9.5's TSS weighs 1gr.

They claim the #9 TSS is as effective as a #4 lead....

A lead #4 pellet weighs 3.30 grains....a lead #7 shot weighs 1.50 grains....both substantially more weight than the smaller TSS pellet.

Energy is figured by computing weight and velocity. There is no way a #9 TSS pellet weighing a third of a #4 lead can have more energy than a lead #4 shot moving at the same velocity.....fact is a lead #7 has more energy than a TSS #9 size shot moving at equal velocity.

The TSS bOys like to talk in ccs...

They will avoid talking about pellet weights at all cost.

Here a cc...there a cc...everywhere a cc...

ccs on the brAin.

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