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Just for the record Steve O' wouldn't make a pimple on the gunsmiths azz that told me they eventually go back. I believe you Frank...that you, nor anyone else's word you take as gospel, could ever be wrong.
Life is too short to have a 'hate on' for so many things or people. Isn't it?
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Free loading Brent D for dummy needs to make a donation to this site or shut the hell up....
just an observation Good luck with that Frank. There ain't a damn thing you can do about it except draw more attention to yourself. As usual. Just a fact.
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I've done it but only for myself (I am not even an internet gunsmith). It is a job you can do if you want. Takes some space and the building of a substantial jig, but it is a fun project. YUP THREAD RELATED I have a first year Superposed with a Monte Carlo stock, Through the Stock bolt, and a Miller mechanical trigger that i am going to bend.((Cast off)). I have done this before to other shotguns, with"" some success"". I have a good solid jig. In the past I Have used a heat lamp with wet towels. I start slow and work up in side pressure against the side of the stock, Takes a few days. I would like to get some tips or other information on this procedure. OR MAYBE I am doing this wrong. I would like to hear of others experience with stock bending. Thanks for reading my post David
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long range....water will only allow the wood to get to 212-215 degrees. Wood burns at 440 degrees. It bends best if the wood is warmed above 250 degrees. Or so my experience has taught me in the past 30 years of bending gunstocks. I use Raw Linseed Oil on a rag which is wrapped around the wrist of the gunstock. I have heard others using other vegetable/seed oil products. Each is trial and error. The key is to get the wood warm enough to move easily and without breaking.
Yes, I started bending gunstock using water. If you are not paying attention, the water evaporates and the gunstock is damaged by heat charring....don't ask me how I know this.
SKB is correct in the information he has relayed. By taking your time and paying attention to the wood....much may be accomplished. I too guarantee my services in this area. Stand behind what you do....no matter what. Steve got the first nod. Believe him. He is good at what he does.
Dennis Earl Smith/Benefactor Life NRA, ACGG Professional member
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Whenever I’ve had a stock ‘bent’ ....and by various gunsmiths, there were no guarantees in terms of cracking at the wrist. I see Steve has a ‘guarantee’. Is that guarantee only that for “if it returns to the old set”, or does that include cracking the stock for the guarantee? What about you DES/TSD? Seems like a high risk for cracking even if one has the perfect “feel”. I’d love to find a stock bender who guarantees against breakage. and.....what would that guarantee include, a new stock or a repair? Repairs sometimes work, but sometimes they don’t. Thanks.
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mike orlan did bend a lovely 12 bore pistol grip 32'' francotte 20e pigeon gun that I bought from the late, great Bill Wise...he put a 1/4'' cast off into it , & it was the same when I sold it 5 years later...so some stay put, this was a brute of a 8 3/4lb gun with beefy stock cheers franc
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I do not know of anyone who guarantees against breakage during a bend or a frame cracking during the CCH process. Some things in life just come with risk, stock bends are one of them. I will happily re-bend a stock if it returns to the old dimensions.
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I don’t blame you, since high risk. We all roll the dice with these sorts of decisions. I know I have. An ill-fitting stock, not much choice in my opinion. A ‘shooter’ gun, I’d risk with a bend, a collector quality gun, likely not.
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Free loading Brent D for dummy needs to make a donation to this site or shut the hell up....
just an observation Good luck with that Frank. There ain't a damn thing you can do about it except draw more attention to yourself. As usual. Just a fact. It's all about calling attention to Freddy the doublegun forum free loading twit BrentD....
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