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It's superior because he said it was...

I believe the M1 super 90 action came out of a military assault style shotgun.

Benellis are the Pirazzis of automatics...

Military and police version of the A5:

https://www.gunsamerica.com/960249544/FN...n----------.htm


I wouldn�t want to be in front of it.

Best,
Ted

8 shots...barrels kinda short but it ought to kill some pigeons.

Sweet it even has a white line pad...sheww

I was expecting this response Ted.

Do you know another gun that needs such meticulous care and adjustment and maintenance? I can tell you mine was carefully cleaned and lubricated. But it just doesn't hold up to the rigors of a Kansas sandbar. If you like'em, more power to ya. I sold mine and was glad to get a dollar for it. That went towards my first double which has never ever failed to fire.

Brent...when you make a donation to this great message board then maybe someone will give a damn what you say or think...in the mean time please keep your thoughts to yourself.
Thanks.

The Remington M11 was used by the military in WWII to teach AA lead to gunners and were available on some bases for recreational trap and skeet. Those guns are marked with the Flaming Bomb and US. Gil

buzz, my bad on the usage of the word "attenuate". I thought it meant to "spread out" or "lengthen the duration of". That's what all devices that reduce felt recoil do ...........stretch out out from a sharp peak to a longer "push". Thanks for correcting me. Now I know how to use the word properly.

The A5 may have been made in a M & P version, but was never adopted and issued by our military for dirty work. Gil is right about the anti-aitcraft application. Not much problem with mud, dust and dirt messing with it there.

I'm not bad mouthing the A5 design at all. I shot a M11 20 ga. on doves and quail for years, and learned how to keep it functioning perfectly. But, it just won't take the abuse that a 390 will, and keep on feeding perfectly. I don't intentionally abuse any gun, even an "automatic", but "stuff" happens. When you trip and fall in chest waders and your gun goes down in the murk, and you're hours away from your cleaning kit, you get to appreciate the bullet-proof design of the Beretta, who just happens to own Benelli and make all the Benelli barrels. I've seen a lot of SBEs that fail to feed and lock up. May be just operator error, in maintaining them, but too many people have fallen for the advertising hype on them and think, if they pay almost enough to buy three 390s, they must be perfection. They ain't.

SRH

Less my buds here get the wrong idea about me, I'm not a "closet automatic man". I bought that one about 15 years go for $525 NIB, to use when I hunted with Charlie Boswell as they filmed hunting shows for TV, on the now defunct Gobblin' Fever series, by Mark Scroggins. Charlie is the founder of Comp-N-Choke and he and his sons still own and run the business. CNC was a sponsor of the show, so I naturally needed to be shooting his chokes on camera. No way was I gonna thread any of my S x S duck guns and shoot with those extended tubes. So ........ the 390. I make no apologies for not turning down free hunts in Arkansas and Mississippi because I refuse to shoot an autoloader.

It has no soul, but it is a duck killing machine.



SRH

Read what you just wrote...it's an eletist reply.

Stan stop kidding yourself no one cares what you hunt with.

Fact is I don't care what I hunt with....because for me it was never to look kOOl.

Well, this thread deviation away from the SxS guns to discussing automatics, in a sense supports the decline of the SxS. However, it�s so darned cold here in Indiana today (0 deg with a -30 deg wind chill), that I wonder if any automatic, no matter the brand, would even function. A SxS probably would be ok. Speaking of the bad weather, I�m a little worried about my bird dogs in the kennel. I had some super dooper dog houses made with full insulation, even in the floor and roof, but still a little worried. I hope they are ok, just have to get through a couple of days. Sometimes I think Indiana is the coldest place on earth in the winter. With this in mind, spring can�t get here soon enough for me!