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I love that story, Stan. Dang...
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Regarding shotguns in combat, all I can say is that on my last tour in Afghanistan, I was not initially issued a long gun (M4). I did have access to a Mossberg 500 riot gun so I availed myself to that. I carried it with a dump pouch full (about 40 rds) of Winchester 2 00 Buck because that was all I could get. I carried that until I go a shorty SAW 249 (Para variation) .
One downside to a shotgun in combat is that for each movement to load the gun, you only get one round in, versus on an M4 each time you load, its a magazine worth of 28-30 rds.
The Afghans really liked to see me show up with it. The Afghans knew exactly what it was capable of. During down time, they wanted me to shoot doves for them with it. Took a little explaining to convince them a 9 pellet load of 00 Buck was not a good dove load.
Of course, when the enlisted guys saw an O-5 (LTC) with a shotgun, or a SAW they always gave me that WTF look; Officers dont carry shotguns or SAWs!! Anyway, being former enlisted, and extremely proficient in both, it was not an issue. Besides, I was in charge!!

and since this is the double gun site, I a including a photo of one of the afghans with his "bespoke double"!!! so I am not in violation of the posting rules and to keep this topic from going off the rails
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Might as well post one of me in Afghanistan in 2005 with a stub of a sawed off shotgun. I went out for two months on short notice/contract....I hadn't qualified in several years on the M-4 so wasn't allow to carry one. But they gave me the shotgun. Everywhere you look from the Indus Valley to the Hindu Kush are 1,000 yard sight lines....there was a reason the Enfield .303 remained so popular with the tribals...and here I was carrying a shotgun good for 30 yards. Yes, the mustache is a little goofy - but you have to have hair on your face out there...and don't ever wear red...I can explain it if you wish.

You see that flat area behind me? It is historic and has to do with third week of September 2001.



I personally preferred this one, but it's a little more difficult to transport - 2007 NW Afghanistan: Very effective against ducks and geese though.



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If I haven't violated the site rules with this thread, you haven't violated it with your pics,
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Thanks to you and Gene, for the pictures and for your service.

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Whining decliners don't follow any rules...

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