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Tried my best to bring my son up right, with sxs guns. Turns out he took to OU's instead. Asked me to find a nice one for him. I got him an early RL 20ga, 26", IC/M. Very nice wood, case colored receiver. About the only knock on them is that they're not very light compared to various Beretta and Citori models. Getting older, so thought I'd find an even nicer gun for the kid. Came up with a Citori Grade III in 16ga. Said it was a nice gun but he liked his RL better.

Red Labels are seriously under rated by a lot of hunters and shooters.

Not an American O/U, but I have owned a Savage(Valmet) Model 333, 28", M/F, 20ga, 3", since 1976. It was the first shotgun I owned and has been used for everything. Heavy, built like a tank, and zero issues since '76. I am told the Valmet is a Remington/K gun clone.

John

Hard to get any more
American than a John Browning Superposed.

American design but not American made.

Who's fault is that ?

Winchester�s. Entirely.

Joe, Not a matter of fault. John Browning grew tired of Winchester buying his designs only to never make them. I�m sure he expected future redesigns or a Royality. Winchester bought his designs so no one else could compete with his designs they already owned and made. Had a heart attack not occurred, Browning arms might never have been a company, importer or anything else. We'd see more Remington made Browning designs.

Original issues of this post were American Design and American made. If you want to split hairs, which you never do, the 3200 is both but not for the reason most think. The 3200 is not really much to deal with the 32. The Remington 32 is mostly a upgraded copy of a French design as I remember. The 32 was the inspiration for all Kreighoffs k32, k80 and do on.

I use to own a early version of a gun which predates Kreighoff K32. Mine had heavy Germanic engraving and was exactly like the Remington 32 in every way. It was a Europia. I think it was made under contract by Kreighoff. The Kreighoff K32 is a improved copy of the Europia which was a copy of the Remington 32.

The 3200 is not really a copy of the Remington 32 or K32. The barrels are open in the middle, there is a receiver hood and it has two barrels but everything else is different. So in the end the 3200 is technically an American designed and American made gun. I�ve owned many of them in the past but am now down to six or eight of them.

I know all that.

The superposed was American designed and FN made that's a hard combination to beat.

One of the touted features of the 3200 was its fast firing speed. Also, the safety on/off and barrel selection is one movement, left or right, as it's none of the "up and over" one way or the other as in some OU's.