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Sidelock
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The lever is not centered in any of the 4 posted pictures which are all I have to go on. The breech of the barrels appears to be seated as far as they are going to seat. My take from the pictures is it was not intentional just for photographing, I see no advantage in so doing.
I do not, of course, know if it is a result of the re-hardening, but that is a possibility.
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Ooooops! Forgot it is an 8 bore. OK, how much "X" for 8 bore over 12 bore? I doubt that Churchill being the seller "should" influence the value very much. SKB, $3-4K would be 10X for a 12 bore. I allow 2-4X for double rifle over shotguns. What say you?
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My curiosity is piqued.
There are only a couple places in the US you can use an 8. As I recall, it was only turkeys in AZ or something.
So, in the US, I would think the value for a well worn 8 is primarily as a decorative piece. And that (other than limited data in DA's matrix as an alternative) lends support to DA's evaluation.
So, why buy a well worn 8 and then endure VAT, importation costs, etc? It would not seem to be for "use".
Out there doing it best I can.
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Usable 8 bore guns have demand far exceeding supply. They can be used a few places here in the States but Canada and the UK push the value up because you can still use them on Waterfowl there. I think if the above gun was a 12 bore it would sell for 6-800$, maybe not fast but that kind of money. I would say maybe 4X for an eight bore.
The thing with the double rifle over shotgun value is caliber is a huge factor in double rifles. Bore diameter, availability of current loads, over all power, BP vs Nitro, how well the cartridge is known are all factors in the price of a double rifle.
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For a 12 gauge to make $600-800 it has to value as BV3-OQ7-CC6 = $684. BV3 we know for sure. OQ7 is equivalent to a border engraved BLE or a 1/3 engraved BLNE as opposed to border engraved BLNE for OQ8. "Shootable but needs some repairs and refinishing or refinished with barrels or stock replaced," that is CC6 and "Shootable but needs expensive repairs or restored with stock and barrels replaced " = CC7.
So, an 8 bore SXS shotgun values like an equivalent double rifle. I would not have thought so, but SKB has very impressive credentials. Guess I'll just have to pay more attention to auction results on 8 bores.
Opinions welcome. Any questions on my value charts?
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I have sold 1 or 2 8ga guns a year. I find they sell for 5 to 7 times the price of a 12ga. the higher the grade and condition the higher the multiplier
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Sidelock
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Me thinks yo scale is way out of wack on this one...
And for the life of me I don't know how anyone could determine it needs extensive repairs.
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Cz, US buyers do not pay VAT on gun purchases for export.
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You cannot use an 8ga in my part of Canada while an 8 ga does command a good price
Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool.
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Good to know. Are there some places in Canada where the 8 Ga. is legal or am I mistaken? I thought I had remembered one of our members making a trip up there and using a 8 bore but I sure could be wrong.
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