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Whew! It appears I dodged the bullet this time. I took my new Iside .410 out for the first firing awhile ago. I won't bore you with a lot of the minutia, but I shot four different choke tubes in it, switching them from barrel to barrel, at my pattern plate. I used 1/2 ounce and 3/4 ounce loads in each barrel. I shot mostly at 20 yards, then a few at 16 yards. Every choke tube and every different load in the rt. barrel printed a perfect 60/40 high pattern. Likewise, all tubes and all loads printed a tiny bit right out of the left barrel. Every shot confirmed the previous results, with no variations.
Even though the left barrel is not perfectly regulated, it is very, very close. As I have said before, I won't own a gun that doesn't shoot where I look, with both barrels, and I will eventually hone a couple of the choke tubes to perfect regulation for the left barrel. It is plenty close enough for hunting or clays, but I just have to know it is exactly right, for my confidence in shooting the gun. Plenty of time for that later.
Great triggers, strong ejectors. So far, I'm favorably impressed, with no evident warts.
SRH
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Good news! I am happy to hear this. It has been in the back of my mind that you and Dave Erickson have one and I was hoping you did not have similar problems to mine.
So many guns, so little time!
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Mine is supposed to arrive in December. Fingers crossed!
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52 degrees here today so my wife and I went to a sporting clays place. I was a little slow getting started however by the fifth station I couldn't miss with it. I missed maybe five targets from station six to 21. Two stations were not operating. The gun is awesome for me at least it was today. For the first time my wife decided she wanted to try a SxS and she loved it too. She normally shoots a Beretta A400. She did great with it and its two triggers. Life is good.
I wonder if the extra length and weight of the extended choke tubes had anything to do with it.
Only the best of the holiday season to you all!
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Well that's good news, Milt! I know you feel better about it all now. Sometimes, as my grandaddy used to say, a bad start makes for a good finish. Seems to be the case here. Some think that extended chokes in a S x S look as bad as death eating a cracker, but you got the gun shooting where it needs to, and that's a good thing. I doubt the weight of the extended tubes had anything to do with your shooting the gun well. More likely the confidence you have in knowing it is shooting exactly where it should helped your shooting.
SRH
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Thanks Stan. I am sure you are right and I probably will not shoot it that well ever again but it was a lot of fun. I have to remember "as bad as death eating a cracker"
Best to you,
Milt
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Dave Erickson
Yes, you do have a Fair gun on order with me. I believe in the Fair line of shotguns. I have had great luck with them and all my customers have been pleased. I have one client who purchased several over a two month period. He liked the guns so much that he purchased some other gauges in the following month.
John Boyd
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Quality Arms Inc
Houston, TX
713-818-2971
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John, thanks! I appreciated the phone call today.
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John, facts are facts. Sorry if it affected you.
Dave, I am sure it will be fine.
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Stan'
Note that I said it was "Not Totally Reliable". It is not an absolute guarantee that if the barrel is straight it will hit the right place. I believe your illustration of changing the grip bears that out. You did not change the straightness of the barrels as you changed the grip, only the manner in which it recoiled. Likewise, the barrels can be perfectly straight but if the convergence is off a bit the barrels will not shoot to the same point of impact. Also, we have no guarantee the bores & the OD are absolutely concentric, it's where the bores point that is the important point. It was just a characteristic to investigate. Investigation of mechanical devices is a series of probes based on past experiences. My experience with actually regulating barrels and then checking other guns which the POI issues has revealed some barrrels that were bowed on the outside. I've found wavy ODs on barrels but bores being crooked are constrained by the limits of wall thickness. Belled muzzles for screw chokes are readily apparent. The point of checking the straightness of the barrel is to take you to the next thing to check...convergence. If the barrels are bowed, measuring convergence along the barrels can/will be misleading. High production sxs barrels are likely assembled in fixturing. If they are, it's less likely the convergence is off. If they are wired together for soldering in the traditional way, by eyeball and measuring, bowed barrels are more possible. One barrel shooting on POA and the other shooting off POA is indicative of an individual barrel issue (i.e. crooked choke, bow, etc), not a purely convergence issue
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