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Billy. your Baptist upbringing ought to remind you that Jesus associated with sinners, prostitutes, and even promised forgiveness and a place in Heaven to a thief as he suffered on the cross.

But certainly you know better, and think Trump is more despicable than anything Jesus could tolerate.

From my viewpoint, he is fulfilling more campaign promises than any President in my lifetime, and I think you Democrats are terrified about what he could do to expose the fraud you have perpetrated on the people if you weren't able to stymie his agenda with the continuous false accusations, and the concerted effort to stall, oppose, and sabotage progress to reverse the damage done by Progressives and Liberal Socialists like you.

You're not fooling anyone anymore Billy. Well, except for yourself.


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bill: as for trump being a con man...agreed, but the fact is, winning a presidential election these days, in the age of electronic digital media, requires one to be a better con man and actor than one's opponent...the jfk victory over nixon, is the first example of where image over substance carried the day...

ms ford is a con lady and skilled actress with a political agenda and a dagger up her sleeve...judge kav is also a competitive player and accomplished actor...

much of what ford and kav had to say was bull shit...but kav pulling a rabbit out of his hat in the form of his diary/calendar was brilliance, dont you agree? no one saw that coming...

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Originally Posted By: rocky mtn bill
craig, perhaps you have evidence of a Presidential conscience the rest of the world is unaware of. If so, please fill us in. No conscience restrained him from bilking business partners. No conscience prevented his scamming the naive folks who enrolled in Trump University. Nothing held him back from a lifetime of philandering. I could go on at length, but I'll let you find as many more examples as you'd like. He's your man. Ps: If any of my examples of Trump's moral lapses are't factual, be sure to expose my error.

When I want to jump to a conclusion about his conscience, I'll give it my best swing at laying out facts as I see it, okay? If you can not see that I was questioning you about jumping to conclusions based on your feelings without facts, then spoon feeding doesn't work for you unless it comes from a progressive, right?

As to rants about the man, we must be talking about a 'job interview', correct? No Bill, I'm going to insist on an investigation of you as to why there is no criminal charge and conviction. How simple could it be, I want an investigation, because your ideology offends me and my country?

Of course, you won't discuss that your tactic has nothing more than to do with the bs cover of a job interview. Throw anything you want around and see what sticks, eh? dems do obscene things to women and for money, but they fall under your a-okay pc politics category, right?

Hey, I have an idea, let's make a factual list of what barry bought to benefit the US, under his watch, with all those trillons?

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We're wandering even further OT on an OT thread, but what were Evangelicals to do in 2016, and do now in the 2018 midterms? Trump is a pathologic narcissist and adulterer, but were we to stay home in protest and give the nation to Hillary, Pelosi, Schumer, and the rest of the abortionists and gun grabbers? And let Hillary choose the Supreme Court Justices for another 8 years?
Chuck Colson addressed this difficulty in "Kingdoms In Conflict" in 1990, and it's still a valuable read. For "the gates of hell to not prevail" (Matthew 16:18) we must be willing to engage, confront and if need be knock the door down.

Samuel Rutherford, Lex Rex, p.34
Tyranny being a work of Satan, is not from God, because sin, either habitual or actual, is not from God: the power that is, must be from God; the magistrate, as magistrate, is good in nature of office, and the intrinsic end of his office, (Romans 8:4) for he is the minister of God for thy good; and, therefore, a power ethical, politic, or moral, to oppress, is not from God, and is not a power, but a licentious deviation of a power; and is no more from God, but from sinful nature and the old serpent...

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Craig, a short factual list of Obama's achievements would include saving the American automobile industry, pulling the country out of the Great Recession and restarting the economy, and providing health insurance to millions of people. I know Obamacare is not popular with Republicans, but it isn't the failure they portray it as, and they can't come up with a workable alternative. He also strengthened America's ties with our allies around the globe. Given the issues he inherited and the resistance he drew for being black. I think his presidency was significantly successful, particularly in contrast to his predecessor.


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Originally Posted By: rocky mtn bill
Craig, a short factual list of Obama's achievements would include saving the American automobile industry, pulling the country out of the Great Recession and restarting the economy, and providing health insurance to millions of people. I know Obamacare is not popular with Republicans, but it isn't the failure they portray it as, and they can't come up with a workable alternative. He also strengthened America's ties with our allies around the globe. Given the issues he inherited and the resistance he drew for being black. I think his presidency was significantly successful, particularly in contrast to his predecessor.


OMG, this is funny. Saving the auto industry? Pulling the country out of the Great Recession? Strengthening ties with allies?......knee slappers all!

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Damn, my iMac died and I'm making do with a soundless antique PC while I determine if it needs to be replaced or fixed.

If my spelling is bad, it's because the letters are worn off the keyboard. I'm going from memory.


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Originally Posted By: rocky mtn bill
Craig, a short factual list of Obama's achievements would include saving the American automobile industry, pulling the country out of the Great Recession and restarting the economy, and providing health insurance to millions of people. I know Obamacare is not popular with Republicans, but it isn't the failure they portray it as, and they can't come up with a workable alternative. He also strengthened America's ties with our allies around the globe. Given the issues he inherited and the resistance he drew for being black. I think his presidency was significantly successful, particularly in contrast to his predecessor.


Unbelievable, that someone could actually convince themselves of this.

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Originally Posted By: rocky mtn bill
Nothing held him back from a lifetime of philandering. I could go on at length, but I'll let you find as many more examples as you'd like. He's your man. Ps: If any of my examples of Trump's moral lapses are't factual, be sure to expose my error.


Bill, this lifetime of philandering thing seems to bother you. Tell us truly.....no dodge now.....how do you feel about Bill Clinton's well documented lifetime of philandering and sexual aggression towards women.


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Originally Posted By: rocky mtn bill
craig, perhaps you have evidence of a Presidential conscience the rest of the world is unaware of. If so, please fill us in. No conscience restrained him from bilking business partners. No conscience prevented his scamming the naive folks who enrolled in Trump University. Nothing held him back from a lifetime of philandering. I could go on at length, but I'll let you find as many more examples as you'd like. He's your man. Ps: If any of my examples of Trump's moral lapses are't factual, be sure to expose my error.


Since you obviously think you are an expert on morals, answer this for me. How do you justify supporting politicians who promote and support murder in the womb? Let's go over the morality in that.

SRH


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