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Boy somebody sure got their panties in a wad when I correctly pointed out it was Reagan's Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1981 that removed most funding and forced States to release the mentally challenged. Any care to dispute the fact? Nah...

Hey I did learn something yesterday. The new propaganda term for the disaster that was the Iraq War is now "the liberation of Iraq". I am still laughing over that one.


Go team, Go.....


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Originally Posted By: keith
jOe isn't stabbing you in the back like SKB is James. jOe isn't frequently popping up to bash pro-gun republicans like Steve does. I believe Steve is indeed being disingenuous, and he has given us abundant proof of that. I'd just like to see him be honest with us and come out of his closet. And like it or not, jOe really is one of those gun owners who you say we need to have on our side and not be polarized against them.

It sure doesn't sound as though you are a not fanatic when it comes to hating jOe. I'd say that calling him an ignoramus rises to the level of shitting on a fellow hunter, shooter, and gun owner in a fanatical manner... something you keep lecturing me about.

With the changing demographics you are concerned about, how can you justify rejecting jOe and embracing guys like King and SKB who obviously support Liberal left anti-gunners? Why is it OK for you to shit on jOe, and bad for me to dump on Liberal Left back-stabbers?

I don't need to call you in 60 years to tell you that embracing the Liberal left Democrat gun owners who undermine our efforts to preserve gun rights is not working. The anti-gun politicians and organizations themselves are as proud as peacocks about that, and they are happy to report and exaggerate the number of gun owners who they claim support more gun restrictions on law abiding citizens.

But maybe you'll prove me wrong in the end. Who knows...maybe you'll change King. And maybe pigs will fly too.


No you are right....jOe doesnt pop up frequently just to bash pro gun Republicans.....he pops up frequently to bash everyone, including most on this site.

Good try Keith but jOe has 12,000 or so posts here and the vast majority are evidence of what kind of man he is.

IMHO, I dislike jOe for good reason.....hes a dislikeable fellow. Hes a busy body on the for sale section and he reeks of negativity with every comment over here.

I dont dislike him for his politics.

The difference, I suppose, is that I dont, on a regular basis, respond to every post jOe makes by calling him out for being a dick. I usually let his inanities slide. So I can have my opinion, be prepared to defend or confirm it on occasion, jOe knows what I think, but Im not getting triggered by him every time he posts. And Im not subjecting everyone else to a recitation of a bunch of bullshit between jOe and I that they already know about.

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Eh O'sckolerly cAnooker...

I sit back and sometimes read your crap

You really think you are e'jew'makatin the world wit yer Canadian hOrse hockey.

No body pays any attention to the Canadian crap you type about American politics.

You in yer bud Kangfisher need to worry about that F'd up country of yours...that no one gives a shAt bout.

Including yOu.


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Originally Posted By: canvasback
Okay, Ill add a bit more.

Im right about demographics and our changing society. You can deny it, stick your head in the sand or hold your breath and plug your ears. Wont make a bit of difference. Change is coming and alienating those closest to us wont help keep up the numbers. Thats just the way it is.

The reason you are losing the society game is because you arent playing the long game and the Left is. And you are losing for sure.

The thread was started due to the hate exhibited towards Californians who a simply trying to follow the laws they are saddled with. There is hate and polarization exhibited here every day.

Hey cback, tell King if my roof is on fire, well we're just gonna have to put it out and get back to the rest of life.

I'm at a loss here. When did I ever say that demographics are not changing? Don't we all know that dems of the past would have little use for most of today's Republicans, because they're too far left?

Just to be clear, are we thinking that the long game for conservative leaning folks involves occasionally voting for a dem? If not, this is meaningless chit chat, right? For me, I'm not thinking about approaching political differences from a position of hate, but boy oh boy, if we repeat it often enough, it must be true.

I see interesting 'media' pieces in recent days. President Trump was visiting, go figure, Billings Montana last night. The large venue was packed, but the crowd was well versed on and responsive to the issues. Contrast with that with the 'protesters' outside of the Judge Kavanaugh hearings, the knuckleheads have no idea why they're there, what their signs say, let alone who is leading them to believe in a handful of talking point catch phrases. And, your long game involves reaching out to these folks? Of course not, maybe, but RM Bill mentioned he's not concerned in the least bit about the progressive billionaire bank rollers of these 'spontaneous protests'. Try working with them, eh, are they gonna fund a spontaneous pro 2nd rally with dupes that actually have their brain hooked up?

Yup, the media's broken. Most of King's colleagues this morning are raving about dem booker invoking race and risking his entire career to shed light on his so called secret documents. Of course, he failed to mention that he made an impossible request to declassify the papers just the night before, and his forgettable ploy was accommodated at the speed of bureaucratic light. Here's the future of the dems, part of our long game, eh? Wouldn't you think it's a great thing that the good citizens at the Billings rally have half the sense to see past all the 'hate and polarization'?

Back to kali, I'll repeat like a broken record. It takes about 270 electoral votes to elect a US President. Without counting a single popular vote, as soon as the polls close, most media spots the dem to a 55 vote lead, 20% of the way without breaking a sweat. Is part of our long game to pat them on the back, and convince them to drop their all or none electoral vote allocation? If you can do it, I'll show the love for that state again, eh?

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Originally Posted By: craigd




Just to be clear, are we thinking that the long game for conservative leaning folks involves occasionally voting for a dem?


No, but it may mean changing either or both of our strategies and tactics and taking a long term view.

Are you suggesting there isn't polarization now between the Dems and the Republicans? Are you suggesting many people don't judge others simply by their expectation of who they are voting for?

Good for Trump and good for the people in Billings. Trump's a start. Trump is a disruptor. We need disruptors.

My long term game involves things like working towards evolving the culture of the teachers colleges so they aren't turning out Marxist foot soldiers who brainwash millions of kids every day that the Left view is the only view. My long term game involves blowing up the culture of journalism schools so they are turning out something other than died in the wool socialists.

And your last paragraph simply reinforces my contention that demographics and liberals have mostly been winning throughout my 60 years.

Hating doesn't get us anywhere. Existing in an echo chamber, as Keith would have us do here, doesn't get us anywhere. This thread was started because someone was objecting to being categorized with the corrupt socialists who run California from their strongholds in the LA and SF areas. I think he's right to object. He, and others like him, deserve our support, not our disdain.

Now I'm off to the gunsmith to pick up a couple guns. Yippee!!

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Yes, craig, together the US will put the fire out and a lot of Republican firemen now are on the scene with bigger hoses than Democrats.

Joe, US invaded Canada and burned Toronto. With help of your and our fierce Iroquois, we pushed US back and burned Washington.

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Originally Posted By: King Brown
Yes, craig, together the US will put the fire out and a lot of Republican firemen now are on the scene with bigger hoses than Democrats.

Joe, US invaded Canada and burned Toronto. With help of your and our fierce Iroquois, we pushed US back and burned Washington.


King, those events took place over 200 years ago. They are no longer germane and haven't been in your lifetime. laugh


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Originally Posted By: King Brown
Yes, craig, together the US will put the fire out and a lot of Republican firemen now are on the scene with bigger hoses than Democrats.

Joe, US invaded Canada and burned Toronto. With help of your and our fierce Iroquois, we pushed US back and burned Washington.


So yer saying....we owe them cAnookers one.

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Originally Posted By: HomelessjOe


No body pays any attention to the Canadian crap you type about American politics.




Interesting that's your take jOe, seeing as the last couple pages of this particular thread have been largely taken up by a conversation between Craig, Keith and me. At the very least, those two intelligent members have some interest in what I have to say. They seem to be paying attention. Did you miss those posts?

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You must be one of them a Fwench cAnookers because eye always see a lot of wee weez in your posts.

Next time you try and ea'jew'makat us on American politics remember just because you're on the same planet as wee...you ain't a wee.

Wee wee Miss'sure.





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