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You have just stated my sentiments perfectly. Well said.

SRH

Time I did that I told them next time I come I'm bringing me a long handled tennis racket to swat them pen razed quails with.

Only game in town these days, jOe...Geo

jOe ain't never seen how "quailbirds" that are raised with no contact with humans, in flight pens, trained to fear hawks, and released in August, fly by the time cold weather comes, either. If he had he would know better than to think they all have to be kicked off the ground.

I shot quail last year in October that were all but indistinguishable from wild birds, and had been released in August. The owner and I bumped into a big covey late in the day that we think may have been true wild birds, or some of last year's releases, or birds that were raised from hatches by a previous year's released birds. But, the coveys we had been in all afternoon flushed so wild that we didn't even get within good gun range of them sometimes before they got up, just from the sound of us walking up towards the pointers in the dry grass and leaves.

I grew up hunting wild birds. I know what it was like. I have also seen what it is like to have to kick up birds. Those are not the only two kinds of quail.

SRH

Keep convincing yourself it'll become easier the older you get.

Your universe is not the world. You admitted you've shot released birds once, but you know all about them. Yeah, right.

SRH

Not much I can add to this thread. But I was working on a 410 this week and I can tell you it puckered me a bit. I had the barrels supported on each end with soft wood blocks in a pressbrake and was pushing down on them in the middle enough to curve them an amazing amount just to bend them about .010" on this lil' Italian sxs that I have more pesos in than I'd like to admit.Lots of spring-back in those barrels. I was taking out a slight upward bend they had which caused me to shoot this gun consistently high. If I've learned anything from shooting 410, it's the gun fit is critical, moreso than a 12g.

Hope you are all enjoying the 410 debate and the films we produce.
here is one of our films that you might enjoy
regards from the UK

Dave Carrie [video:youtube]https://youtu.be/UJf7Mb7lKj4[/video]

Good to hear the barrel bending went well, Chuck. If you have the chance, and the inclination, I know several of us would appreciate your posting details, and pics if available. Maybe over on the DIY Gunsmithing forum here.

Very good film, miroku. I really enjoyed that one.

Thanks, SRH

Stan,
Unfortunately, I didn't get any pictures of the bending/straightnening. I was pretty sucked up and didn't think of pictures. But I'm sure a pic of the barrels in their full curve on the pressbrake would get some comments. It was a hot day in my friend's shop and one of the toolmakers was running the 8ft hydraulic pressbrake while I held the setup. Sweat was running down my face as we had to sneak up on the amount of bend using the pre-set limit on the machine, so as to not overbend. We repeated the bend maybe 30-40 times, checking with a straightedge after each bend. The gun is that little tiny framed Ferlib with rose and scroll, 28" barrels, 5 1/2 lbs, straight stock, DT. I like the gun a lot, but have always shot high with it. Looking at the stock fit, I didn't think I could see over the breach if I lowered the comb or bent the stock down. So, I checked the barrel straightness. It had maybe .010" of up sway. Not really detectable looking alongside with the eye, but with a straightedge, it was visible. The goal was to take that out. Shooting at the pattern plate and clays should tell if I did what was needed.