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I've read about these, as supplied by Browning, and think I may have been given one in very good condition. What exactly are they, why do they seem desirable in the market, and how do you determine if a Browning hard case is indeed a Hartmann?
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Congratulations! I used to collect Belgium Browning A5 shotguns and the Auto 22 takedown. The Hartman cases were as collectable as the guns as you wanted to display your beautiful Sweet 16 in a nice factory case. The most desirable Hartman case is the one with the plastic insert in the handle. Over time they would break and you saw many that were missing. They made them for all their guns from high powered rifles to the Superposed.
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There was the Hartmann cases and then the Airways cases. Both near identical. The only difference, as i recall, was the handle.
They were made for a number of different models. But the most commonly found one would usually be for the superposed. Multi-barrel cases were also made.
For most of the Hartmann and Airways cases, the max value on very nice ones is maybe $350.
The nicest Browning cases are by far the Tolex cases.
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Which Browning case is most desirable is a matter of the vintage of the gun you want to put in it. Pre-War there was the S and SB, 1931 -- 1937 -- In the late 1950s the Tolex -- and then the Hartman -- My Browning catalog collection isn't complete enough to tell exactly what years what styles began and ended.
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They are classic cases, and make a great display.
I was also given a high condition 2 barrel A5 Hartmann case.
Gun in case looks just like it did on the counter at A&F.
The problem of course is that Brownings tended to be stored and neglected in the cases simply because many Brownings were equipped with hard cases.
Many a Superposed has corrosion damage on the right side of the frame from the model 1215 case.
The Hartmann/Airways case is a better design from that standpoint.
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It's the one in the bottom photo Dave graciously posted. I'll go look at the handle, maybe take a pic or two to post for a positive i.d.
Thanks, everyone.
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Hartmann cases have plastic handle with white insert, metal feet, and the locks say Hartmann in script. The interiors on the early Hartmann cases is a short nap wool like material. The later Hartmann cases have a longer synthetic fur material inside.
Airways cases look similar but have leather handle and plastic feet.
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Definitely an early Hartmann. Didn't see the little script on the latches. Case has a few scuffs, and the interior is dirty, but not too bad overall. Thanks to all for the help. SRH
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Can anyone tell by the interior what Browning gun it was built for?
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Stan I would guess for an A5 multi barrel. It doesn't look like any of the ones I have for my superpose and the indentation in the top looks like the receiver of an A5.
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