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#514977 - 05/31/18 06:17 PM Ted Schefelbein or other Darne gurus
pmag Offline

Registered: 10/26/06
Posts: 123
Do you know anyone that can switch a safety lever on an R14 from the left side to the right side.


#515018 - 06/01/18 06:19 AM Re: Ted Schefelbein or other Darne gurus [Re: pmag]
GLS Offline

Registered: 03/23/11
Posts: 3378
Loc: Lowcountry, GA
Of the few 'smiths in the US that know their way around a Darne, here's one you can call and ask if it can be done:

#515023 - 06/01/18 06:42 AM Re: Ted Schefelbein or other Darne gurus [Re: pmag]
HomelessjOe Offline

Registered: 01/15/06
Posts: 14388
Loc: The Great State of Tennessee
Wherez that darn X'spurt Mr. Sniffle'beAn when you need him...
NEVER ANOTHER DIME TO DAVE as long as he locks threads and removes posts.

#515031 - 06/01/18 08:43 AM Re: Ted Schefelbein or other Darne gurus [Re: pmag]
2-piper Offline

Registered: 12/31/01
Posts: 12743
Loc: Lynchburg TN
Swapping sides of the safety on an R Darne is not a big deal. I swapped mine myself on a 16 ga Halifax' I found it to be even more objectionable that way, at least to me, so turned it back around. These would be great guns if they just had a convenient safety.
I Didn't Say Everything I Said, Yogi Berra

#515060 - 06/01/18 04:54 PM Re: Ted Schefelbein or other Darne gurus [Re: pmag]
Ted Schefelbein Offline

Registered: 01/02/02
Posts: 7903
Loc: mpls, mn.
Pete, Gil has given you the name of the gunsmith I would recommend. What Miller has posted is somewhat true, depending on what Darne you have in hand:

The photo shows my R10, photographed and seen many times on this site, with the breech removed, flipped downside up, safety rotated down for clarity, and my tool of choice for R model Darne safety swapping pointing at the little flat spring that retains the safety. One only need pry up on the spring, pull out the safety lever, and reverse it while holding the spring up.
Then, the fun begins.
There is a detent, a flat spot filed into the shaft of the safety lever, that will no longer be under spring tension, so, you will have lost the indication of safety on or off. You can re-file another detent if the lever works out OK for you ergonomically, which, as Miller has also pointed out, isn't always the case. You may also find that the cuts in the shaft of the safety lever DO NOT align with the sears, and the safety either does not function as a safety, or, does not allow the triggers to trip the sears.
This case requires a bit more investigation and work, and, just from what I have seen over the years of dealing with Darne guns, if you need help figuring out how to flip the safety on a site like this, you aren't likely to be the guy to make it work after that discovery.
Send it to JJ.

Unrelated to Darne guns, I have been off-line for a while. I am fine, and wish to thank those concerned with my welfare. I am at a point where I need a new computer, and find myself not terribly interested in taking care of that problem. That, and spring has always been a very busy time for me. As Craig noted elsewhere, I have an 11 year old son, and as we have done every year since he was five years old, we participated in the Lake Pepin 3 Speed Tour, completing the 90 mile, two day tour on 50+ year old, 70 lb. English three speed bicycles:

There are perhaps 150 people who do the tour with the local English bicycle club. Most of them drop their cars in Red Wing, climb on their bikes and have no SAG for either the ride down Wisconsin 35, or, the ride back up US 61 in Minnesota the next day. The Colombian chick gets shoved into the cab of the F150, that has spare parts, tools, beer, and compressed air available in the bed. I have become, I suppose, a necessary evil to this group-I serviced a flat tire, this year, and pressed a cotter, sitting on my butt at the Maiden Rock rest stop, last year.

I am stunned at the number of people who hear about the ride, buy a $15 thrift store Raleigh, that has hung in the rafters for 4 decades, and show up on Saturday morning, without so much as a drop of oil being squirted into the rear hub.

Christopher has outgrown his 17" 1963 Raleigh Colt, and this will be his last year on it. The photo shows what you often start with for an older English bicycle that meets specific requirements (this is a small men's frame, that should fit him for several more seasons, when completed). It will be restored, and made ready for a club ride this fall, and he will use it for next years tour.

I've been busy. My brother and mother are disabled, and I spend more time every year helping them get through their days. I look at the for sale section every day, but, posting with the computers available to me at the moment has become a PITA.

I'll try not to be a stranger. Best wishes to you all.

Ted Schefelbein

#515063 - 06/01/18 05:17 PM Re: Ted Schefelbein or other Darne gurus [Re: pmag]
Argo44 Offline

Registered: 02/21/16
Posts: 1513
Loc: McLean, Virginia
Ted, you are the Darnemeister, Le Maitre des Darne, and I believe every word you say about Darnes and Darne clones. But a 70lb English 3 speed?

I toured all over North Florida in 1959-60 on my English 3 speed. We'd pack our stuff in a pair of jeans with the legs tied in a knot at the knee, sling them over the rear fender and off we'd go in the middle of summer with the heat and humidity. Its a wonder heat stroke didn't take us out. And I'm sure that they didn't weigh 70 lbs. Even a Schwinn with front headline, double cross braces and tail fins wouldn't weigh that much. Anyway, sounds like a great ride.

Gene smile
Baluch are not Brahui, Brahui are Baluch

#515065 - 06/01/18 05:30 PM Re: Ted Schefelbein or other Darne gurus [Re: pmag]
Ted Schefelbein Offline

Registered: 01/02/02
Posts: 7903
Loc: mpls, mn.
The Men's 23" in the picture is 58, empty. A bike lock, tea stove, several bottles of water, along with my lucky cresent wrench, go in the Caradice bag. You feel every pound going up the 2 1/2 mile Bay City hill on the WI side.
My Schwinn ballooner newspaper boy's bike, is 72, with the baskets.
My Schwinn Le Tour, rid of steel wheels, seatpost, and a few other sundrys, is 22.

I ride, or, get dragged by my Setter, on a bike, every day.


#515067 - 06/01/18 06:23 PM Re: Ted Schefelbein or other Darne gurus [Re: pmag]
billwolfe Offline

Registered: 11/16/11
Posts: 182
Loc: Tennessee

Thanks for the pics and the post! Really a trip down memory lane that made me smile. Happy riding!


#515069 - 06/01/18 06:26 PM Re: Ted Schefelbein or other Darne gurus [Re: pmag]
John Roberts Offline

Registered: 03/21/02
Posts: 2238
Loc: Southern Miss
Great posts, Ted. Love that family activity stuff. 91 degrees here in the ole miss at 5:30 p.m.
If it won't go, don't force it.

#515071 - 06/01/18 07:34 PM Re: Ted Schefelbein or other Darne gurus [Re: pmag]
Karl Graebner Offline

Registered: 05/15/16
Posts: 1031
Loc: SE Michigan
I've found that biking with the family is a great way to spend Summertime together while getting the legs in shape for bird season. I've flushed some birds on the Rails To Trails routes revealing possible coverts!

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