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Who has the records, or who can tell me when my William Evans was made?
Single trigger boxlock ejector s/n 13821. Did William Evans actually make guns? TIA,
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William Evans maybe? They are still going..... http://www.williamevans.com/ Steve
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Evans has been continuously in business since founding in 1883. They have their own records. E-mail gunroom@williamevans.com.
They were, until recently, not a maker per se. They bought in guns per customer specifications and per their own stock needs. Currently, they are building some few guns. They have always had a repair/service shop. They reamin true to the founding principles of William Evans himself - expert and friendly service. The bulk of their sales was Webley & Scott Screw Grip actions in various boxlock and sidelock configuration and Original Quality grades; Evans seems to have sold a lot of the highier OQ grades.
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MB:
To expand on Rocketman's post....
My William Evans is a 12 GA SxS, and exhibits all the characteristics of the Webley & Scott "Patent Screw Grip". The serial number of the frame is 51XX, and this 51XX shows up on each barrel just forward of the barrel flats. However, on the bottom rib, just forward of the fore-end lug the number 633XX shows up. That number (I believe) represents the 633XX set of barrels made up by Webley & Scott...and this case furnished "to the trade". The gun exhibits London proof marks, not Birmingham.
So I speculate that Williams Evans "bought in" the barrelled action and had it stocked, engraved and "finished" by their own in-house artisans and/or local London artisans.
633XX represents AD 1901 Webley & Scott production from a list I found somewhere....can't remember now.
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I e-mailed them asking them nicely if they could tell me when the gun was made but the e-mail was sent back to me with a note telling me that e-mail address is not taking messages.
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Ian, I retrieved my Evans from the safe and it too has London proof marks and the serial number on each barrel. No other numbers though. How do I know if it has a "screw grip lever"? I do see threads on the spindle when I look into the breech face. And thank you. Are you related to Derrick Nixon who used to shoot on the Canadian National Skeet Team?
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Mike that's a screwgrip Scott.
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Mike H. , why do they call it that?
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The threads on the spindle correspond to a groove or grooves on the dolls head and as the top lever is returns back to the left it pushes down on the dollshead.
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It is called a "Screw Grip" because that is what W & S named it. It shows up in a lot of variations in the 1914 catalogue reproduction I have (from Cornell publications - highly recommended). You will most likely be surprised at how many guns you will recognize, but wearing the name of others. A&N and Evans both bought heavily of these in many grades. Looks like this on a Woodward based on the W & S Proprietary. 
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