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B and P comp I shells are a problem in the old Perazzi guns, if that�s what you are talking about Stan. Those old P guns from the 70�s were made for American shells. I have an old comp I and it�s not just B and P�s, but all those Italian shells cause trouble....I�ve even had them slip under the ejectors (eg, Fiocchi). The brass swells in the chambers. I carry a wad knocker with me. Problem is, my old Mirage is a beater, but I love the way that gun handles. I�ve heard for about $800 they can convert the old guns to the new style. Ain�t worth it to me. I�ll just put up with the idiosyncrasies.......that old gun crushes targets. ;-)

I have had the same problem with Herter shells in a few of my guns. Light strikes in my doubles and failure to extract in Ithaca pump guns. I came to the conclusion that the rims were a bit small or shallow although I have not measured them. I just use other shells in those guns.

I think the RST 16 ga 1 oz 1200 FPS shells are great game loads. Expensive though.

If one needs small bridie 12ga loads certain Walmarts carry light target loads from Winchester and Remington. I even found subsonic trainer Winchester AA loads (7/8oz #8 @980fps) there for $7.87 per box of 25. I bought 12 boxes and wonder if Winchester will honor $2 per box discount they are running now. If they do $5.87 per box is unbeatable considering these are quality shells that even have brass base I haven't seen in years though I have heard Remington target and Federal Gold Medal paper shells also have non-magnetic brass bases.
Unless your local Walmart carries them it's isn't worth the time looking for them because Cabela's has or had special on the Winchester AA target loads at $84.99 per 250 cartridges. Someone mentioned shells with brass bases sadly most shells now use cheaper gold washed metal bases (Cheddite made) and not real brass as they once did.

I have always had first class performance as well as very quick delivery from Polywad for the 16 gauge Vintager shells I use in my older doubles. Like others have mentioned, Jay was always extremely helpful, and delivery was usually only one day. But, I'm only 75 miles or so away from them. I have simply stopped reloading for my old 16 ga doubles since I discovered Polywad a number of years ago. Funny thing, I still save the fired hulls, and don't quite know why.

I prefer RST

I have used all three. All are pretty good, but many of the Gamebore loads have fiber wads - fine if you like to keep the countryside clean. Polywad is very good but the ones I bought were bulk packaged and a bit more difficult to pack and carry in the truck. For my 16s and 20s I have come to like the RST papers.

I've used RST and Gamebore in both 16's and 12's. Gamebore typically has a much narrower selection of loads, pressure is higher (between 7000 and 8000 psi roughly) and way more recoil. Now that I have access to RST, I am using my Gamebore for actual hunting and will likely not replace it when it's gone.

Don't forget, Kent has just brought out a lowish pressure 2 1/2" load.

The Kent 2 1/2" loads at 6700 pressure are finally available.
Karl

Actually, I haven't even tried them in my Perazzi, buzz. I bought them for the lower pressures they generated and tried them in a couple of my older Foxes, and even in my BSS, trying to determine for sure that it wasn't just individual guns. They wouldn't work in the BSS either. All other brands of shells I have tried work fine in all the guns that the B & Ps won't work in. I've got a feeling they will work in a couple of my hammerguns, which seem to have more striker protrusion than the Foxes.

I shoot Fiocchis in my MX8 with no problem.

SRH