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This dbl rifle walked in the shop the other day and I've been unable to turn up much information about the maker. About a .40 cal, marked R.Wakefield, London on the brls and R. Wakefield on the lock plates. Looks to be transition era; off-center top lever screw, single under-bolt, keyed forend, percussion era guard. Any ideas or experience with such a rifle or the maker?   
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SDH..Interesting Gun-Rifle! Does the Top-Lever Cam off the corner of the 'cut-out' at the top strap? Looks somewhat kinda, sorta like a Westley R. Have you stripped it down? any Initials stamped anywhere? Engraving looks a little Provincial' Or Belgium. The only "Wakefield" that comes to mind is the street that Hollands Factory is on as it Intersects The Harrow Road...I'm sure that 'Diggory' or Salopian' will be of help..CC.
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Pull the barrel and show the proofs.
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Sure looks like a Richards to me. This Wakefield could be a seller and not a builder.
I have found a couple of other references to this name but there is no history as a builder, so far.
Best,
John
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Might be a London marked Belgium gun ?
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I haven't taken it apart yet so there is much more that I don't know than what I do. Here's pix of the barrel and action flats. These are the only marking other than the signatures.  
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British back powder proof marks, what happened to the exterior of the barrels? Waiting for browning? Reblue on the mechanical end, seemingly,
Mike
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It looks like the whole gun was hot blued at one time. Estate gun, this is the way it came in the shop. Extractor & sights missing. Very nice locks (no interior markings) and excellent lock inletting.
Anyone know anything about the maker? I haven't got all the references, all I can find is one sentence in Carder about a shotgun.
David, that little tiny mark on the short rib behind the loop looks like A through a B?
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R. Wakefield is not listed in Nigel Brown's "British Gunmakers - Volume One - London" or Crudgington or Boothroyd
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Reading from left to right I would like to know what the last marks on the barrel are called or what they signify. I have a shotgun that I can't ID with a similar mark.
Pictures of the gun were posted here some time ago and we were never able to ID the gun. Maybe knowing what the mark means will help. Dealers have looked at the gun--some think it is English others German--no on knows for sure.
I can't post pictures--too dumb. Daryl Halquist did it for me earlier.
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