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What King Brown always neglects to tell us when he repeats his tired and dishonest old bullshit about the 2nd Amendment being the subject of enduring debate is this:

Whenever and wherever there are infringements or attempts to infringe upon the Constitutional Gun Rights of law abiding citizens, it is directly traceable to the Liberal Left. In this country, this is almost entirely the Liberal Left Democrats that King supports and defends.

If any Judges on the Supreme Court are activist, and makes law rather than interprets whether the law is in accordance with the Constitution, then that simply means the Justices guilty of that behavior have violated their oath to protect and defend the Constitution. Unfortunately, many Justices flat out lie during their confirmation hearings. But dishonest people like King are fine with lying and liars so long as it helps to advance their agenda. This is not just my opinion... King has actually admitted as much on several occasions. This is from his post #389019 on 1/2/2015:



I've said it before, and it bears repeating again. You simply cannot debate or have a civil discussion with a liar. And when someone is so entrenched in their lies as to deny their own words, and to deny that black is black or white is white, only mental illness or pure evil can explain it.

You are so right Keith. I for one have grown so weary of King�s constant bullshit, his untiring attempts here to undermine our American Constitutional rights, especially that of the 2nd Amendment. And, to be honest, most of the time now, I skip over his flowery and nonsensical posts, but I know he still entraps others here who don�t really know his socialist agenda like those of us who have been here for awhile. So, I�m glad to be reminded of what King really represents because the kind, old, grandfatherly facade has fooled me in the past. Thank you. Long live the 2nd Amendment!

Believe what you want to believe. Read your history. My observations are based on history of the issue. Positions changed about the Second, by jurists themselves, even the NRA. That's why there's a debate. Mentioning facts doesn't make me a liar. As posted above, to give a little nudge: " It's absurd for the educated in the 21st century to believe one ideology fits all, and pure fantasy to say that one is purer, more virtuous than the others as fundamentalists everywhere do."

Based on 1994 goals they want control, money and accountability. If one had above certain number of guns and or ammo/reloading supplies 'Arsenal License' was proposed with substantial fee, fingerprinting, local zoning approval for storage, and at least $100,000 in liability insurance all subject to warrantless inspections. While the Second Amendment will not be repealed I would say with current trends and looking toward the future there is much to worry about.

If you study American History you will find the "Militia" was made up of "The People", it was not a standing Army or even the National Guards as we know them today. There was of course a faction who desired Strong Central Government control, They Lost, to those who desired to have a government "Of, By & For" the people with the Federal Government their servant. Lincoln of course did not establish this thought. He recognised it as being in existence when he stated "It Should Not Perish From the Land". When he did everything within his power to take the Government from the "People" & put it into the hands of the /Central Government it doesn't really take a truly intelligent to realize he was lying through his teeth with that Address which has gone down in History. Even a Fool can understand that, You understand don't you King.

Incidentally the Confederacy did not start "The War", they simply tried to peacefully sever their relations with the Union & remove themselves from it. Lincoln Started the War.

I'm not sure I would call it a debate King. As a matter of fact I'm sure it's not a debate.

What it appears to me to be is an attack on property rights by those who feel we should not be allowed to own and use firearms. It is a constant, never ending, never satisfied attack. Those who own guns aren't motivated to debate the issue....only to defend themselves.

The attack is perpetrated by those with extreme views and for fodder, they use the complicit media and low information voters. They lie about and manipulate data. They appeal to emotion with exaggerated pathos. And they ignore the real root causes (which on other subjects dear to their hearts they are so interested in...."poor johnny had no choice to be a car jacking violent meth head.....white privilege and parental drug abuse made him what he is") of mental illness, side effects of prescription drugs, bullying and ostracism and simply pure evil.

At the same time, they ignore easily taken steps that infringe on no law abiding individual's rights that could save tens of thousands of lives.

yup, this shit's political, it's no debate...it's a war....and you are on the wrong side to be regularly posting on this site.

On the other hand, I hope you stay and continue posting. Keep you friends close and your enemies closer.

Now, to stay on topic, I've never liked M21's. IMHO They are ugly and their vaunted strength is a (back to my marketing background) feature with no real benefit that sets it apart. It's the product, however, of fantastic marketing. And for that, I have nothing but admiration.

Thank god we live in a country where politics doesn't infringe on friendship, James, and that goes for so many of my American friends on the board and similarly among ALL members from overseas. Insults only diminish messages.

If you're going to thank Him, please refer to Him as God, not god .............big diff.

SRH

I understand your message, and admire you for its sincerity. I have a strong spiritual life and usually refer to The Great Spirit to accommodate my ecumenism, a distinguishing mark of my family for generations. I try to follow Jesus and the Commandments.

My mother was a Baptist and Anglican father sang professionally at 11 at Toronto's biggest Catholic and Protestant churches, later converted to Catholicism. My grandmother was a British Israelite and grandfather assistant to General Booth and Salvation Army in London, and music director for Gipsy Smith, the Billy Graham of the day.

The amazing amalgam of all it to me is a striving for tolerance, an injunction of Him and Jesus.

Most of us around here are intolerant of socialists and socialism. This is just more of your bologna, King. Give us a break from your socialistic agenda.