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Look up some info on the Martin Place incident in Sydney Australia.
Particularly,
Who was the perp ?
Where his gun came from.
Was it a gun previously in the registration system ?
Was he a licensed shooter ?
What type of gun it was ?
Who got shot ?
Who shot them ?
O.M

You're probably right...I was told a normal warrent can't get investagators into a suspects medical history.

Wrong jOe

"Medical Privacy" rules enacted under the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA) came long after State laws requiring written permission to test for HIV and penalties for disclosing the results

Getting access to your medical records is not hard for "the government" if the NSA is interested
https://www.aclu.org/other/faq-government-access-medical-records

https://www.eff.org/issues/law-enforcement-access
HIPAA permits the police to use an administrative subpoena or other written request with no court involvement, as long as police include a written statement that the information they want is relevant, material, and limited in scope, and that de-identified information is insufficient.

The laws pertaining to access of confidential records mean nothing to corrupt officials. Just look at what SKB small Stevie told us about his FFL audit inspections where he stood by like a sheep while agents photographed his Bound Ledger Books, in violation of the laws that say those records are to remain in the sole possession of the FFL for 20 years or until he retires.

If those agents were not involved in an active criminal investigation, those records should not have left his shop in any form or manner. Isn't that right Stevie? Bleat once for yes and bleat twice for no.

Still, we know that the shooter at Virginia Tech had been on anti-depressants, as was at least one of the Columbine killers. We know Joseph Wesbecker of the San Ysidro, California McDonalds restaurant shooting had heavy metals poisoning. We know the SSRI usage status of quite a few of these shooters, but I've noticed much less willingness for such medical disclosures since the Newtown shooting.

I don't have a problem with the government studying the severe side-effects of SSRI's or even regulating their use if it serves to stop the shifting of blame for these acts onto law abiding gun owners. The government already regulates many drugs that are far less dangerous. And they already stop or prevent Medicare patients from getting many prescription drugs that are not approved on their formulary by refusing to cover the cost.

And poor pathetic Jagermeister still does not own a single solitary double shotgun. He did claim that he owned one of those AKM's, but considering how many lies he has told about gun purchases, I personally wouldn't believe any of his bullshit.

The government is the FDA, which issued an advisory on pediatric & adolescent use of SSRIs in 2003
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4791100/

A black box warning regarding risk of suicide in adults was issued in 2009

This fact sheet came out in 2013
https://www.cms.gov/Medicare-Medicaid-Co...t-factsheet.pdf
Check out the black box warning on Zyban

This came out in 2006
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18690915
2015
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4570770/
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/abc...in-search-cause

What we need is providers paying attention...but government hearings are always nice and a chance for showboating, and another opportunity to blame the drugs (or guns) instead of human evil

I'm looking for 16ga Darne made post 1964 (don't mind honest field wear with some scratches and blue wear but must be in very good to excellent mechanical condition and no recoil pad) if you know where there is one for sale bleat once and bleat twice for no. PM of where one is available will be appreciated.

Another piece of the puzzle - Toxic Stress in Childhood

https://developingchild.harvard.edu/science/key-concepts/toxic-stress/

https://www.aap.org/en-us/advocacy-and-p...xic-Stress.aspx

Messed up parental substitutes making messed up kids

I thought I had responded to this post yesterday moses, using my cell phone... but it must have gotten lost in cyberspace.

I took a little look at the particulars of the Martin Place hostage crisis and shooting which your anti-gunners exploited to advance further gun control.

Wow!

It was not reported by our media that the shooter was affiliated with ISIS, or that he had been under psychiatric care (SSRI's anyone?). Like the Parkland, Florida shooting, there were warning sign that were ignored by authorities. And when the hostage crisis began, it seems that there was hesitation by the police, and delays by them to go in and end it.

http://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/...25bed2b94f85dda

https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/what...518-gw7taz.html

The shooter had multiple criminal charges against him, and there are legitimate questions why he was even on the streets.

Does any of this sound familiar???

Last, but certainly not least... his weapon was a sawed-off shotgun.

That's right "mental illy billy" aka rocky mtm bill... when bad guys can no longer buy the semi-automatic firearms you personally dislike, they will turn to using the kind of gun that you do approve of. The difference between our doubles that you FUDD's think are not threatened, and a prohibited "Any Other Weapon" as defined by the NFA of 1934 is five minutes and a hacksaw. And the anti-gunners you love and support will come after our pumps, doubles. and single shots too.

Raise the legal driving age.
What ? Then that might have slowed down that other wacko in Melbourne Australia who used his car to mow people down in front of Flinders Street train station on December 21 2017. 18 injured 1 dead.
Saeed Noori came from the ghan in 2004 & had a history of assault, drug use & mental illness. He is reported to have been on a mental health plan. whatever that means.

Maybe should have taken his car from him & deregistered it & then took his drivers license off him & tore that up.
Cars are evil & no one needs one because there is public transport. Look, right outside a train station.
This is the same as an anti gun sentiment, which is the reason for it sounding silly.

The gun & the car are not the problem & if the next attack is with chopsticks then the Chinese restaurant is also not the problem.
O.M

Problem is we have elected stupid people to try and solve problems.