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I�m disappointed in Trump�s knee jerk reaction to the recent tragedy in FL in terms of sparring with the NRA.

I believe that is a very slippery slope. We have due process for a reason. I believe constitutionally protected rights should not be violated with out very good cause. So all drugs? Just antidepressants? How about steroids? Alcohol?

So jOe's reasonable gun control act of 2018 will include a UDS before every purchase? Random UDS for gun owners? How about anti-seizure meds jOe? All those pills that come from the pharmacy with the sticker "May cause drowsiness. Use caution while operating heavy machinery"?

But it sure seems reasonable to let the government decide who can be trusted with a firearm to save the life of one kid. Since we're trashing the 2nd we might as well as throw in the 4th Amendment also. Maybe add a data base so helpful folks can anonymously report gun owners suspected of being impaired or on drugs? And Evangelical Christians who hear from God?

'Allow due process so no one's rights are trampled, but the ability to go to court, obtain an order and then collect not only the firearms but any weapons,' Pence said.

'or Mike, take the firearms first, and then go to court'

Thanks. One minor complaint. The popup stated "Would you like to receive important news updates? Select your preference Liberal Conservative" I just want to obtain the real news w/o filtering and comments or discussions by experts, so called.

We need to stop fighting among our selves and concentrate on the liberals. Why should a woman or girl under 21 not be able to buy a gun to defend herself, yet be able to kill her unborn baby, even 12 year old girls.
I just saw Joe Manchin talking up his "comprehensive background check" bill. We read this bill before, it's terrible. "Comprehensive background check" is liberal code for registration.
I also just watched the news of San Francisco Police in a shoot out with a suspect. Police fired 65 rounds and no one on either side was hit. To you trust them to protect your family?
Mike

So, now you're sounding like the NRA?

For about twenty-five pages you've commenting about how the time has come. Remember, progunners gunners have a huge image problem, remember R's have to provide 'good' ideas, something HAS to be done. Careful what you you wish for, huh? But wait, manchin likes this one so it's bipartisan. We'll just pretend fienstine-n-company doesn't ratchet up any traction they can get on negative image front.

What does slippery slope mean? Some slippery slopes are real and some slippery slopes can be excused away with enthusiasm? A tiny few dems will score a reelection win for 'taking action', while the majority will have media fire up the base antigun rhetoric on steroids. And every now and then, they'll tone it down, appear reasonable and calmly say, look even gun folks are criticizing the NRA, and the President, and Ryan, and ole Mitch.

If you really think we're on a slippery slope, maybe next time, don't give 'em public sentiment ammo to grab that next increment and certainly anti tool that will be aggressively tweeked by the next narcissist with a regulatory pen that happen to be a progressive. If you really think we reached a slippery slope point, was it worth taking the 'high road', and criticizing and pressuring the only folks in the entire world that could've helped you. If there is no lopsided outcry, there would be no slippery slope.

I was horrified last night when my wife looking perfectly serious up and said "she thought making people wait until they were 21 to buy a gun sounded like a great idea to her!" But, but, but owning a gun is a constitutional RIGHT I responded. "Oh quit being silly she replied, all we'd be doing is extending the age by three years to let them grow up a little more and at least get out of high school."

Hmmm, we raised five pretty good children together and not a one of them got good sense until they were thirty IMHO. There is more support for this idea than we wish to admit...Geo

We were still married as of 7:30 this morning when she went to babysit two of our grandchildren. We're gonna have to talk more about this!