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I am total neophyte turkey hunter, and don't really have anyone to teach me the finer points. So a few ignorant questions:
Are decoys unethical because they make it too easy to bring the bird in close?
I posted earlier in this thread about my delight in taking my second turkey with a 10 bore hammergun, brass shells and black powder. Would I be a criminal, or merely a scumbag, if this year I used my 8 bore hammergun and BP? Just to have done it? Turkeys are not migratory, right? Close range, of course, and we need to use nontox in California as of this year, so it would be #4 bismuth.
Be gentle, please. Thanks.
If you can tote the 8 ga. and it's legal go for it.. Nothing unethical about using a hen decoy but it can hurt as much as it can help...the strutting gobbler decoys are another story. Most can attest that a turkey is really stupid at times. I had a young man tell me he didn't need a turkey call. And that I needed to get some stealth...he equated stealth to holding a gobbler decoy in front of him and walking towards a gobbler in a field and claimed that most gobblers would approach on a fast run...my reply was he rally knew nothing of stealth in the woods and that tactic was not turkey hunting it was just turkey shooting. I also told the young man I had never snuck up on nor have I ever belly crawled up on a turkey.... The real question is do you want to hunt turkeys or do you want to be a turkey shooter. This photo was taken about 3:10 in the afternoon...after I had been standing by this tree for about 20 minutes I slipped out the phone turned it on and snapped this picture It looks far but it's not an inch over 20 yards. The turkeys were too huddled up to safely shoot one of the gobblers.  This photo was taken at 3:45pm.  The longest I've ever let a turkey stand at that distance without getting shot at....I better check into some of that "stealth". Sadly I didn't have enough "stealth" to kill his brother.
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Some might see this and think I just stumbled up on this love fest....
I originally spotted a strutter with hens about 200 yards to the North (left) of where the picture was taken, I was about 300 yards south (to the right) of this location.
The hunt started about 12:30 or 1 pm. I called from 3 different locations, there was a Jake body guard that I had most of my conversation with (mostly with my trumpet call). I called several times on my box and one time when I gobbled at them they went wild gobbling but after 15 minutes failed to show.
After the last move I called one time semi low (a few yelps with cutts in the middle)on a Sadler McGraw diaphram (that I coined the Judge and the Jury) and they moved up the pasture hill to the position you see them in the photo.
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[quote=HomelessjOe]  This photo says a lot about a person. The ignorance and stupidity it takes to do something like this is mind boggling, but the gall it takes to put it on the internet and act proud of it is beyond comprehension. One of most repulsive, abhorrent photos I've seen here, ever. Just a sick act. JR What is wrong with that picture?
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Too much "friendly fire" around here lately. If anyone here is a for real turkey hunter, it is probably jOe. I think he ought to reconsider fairy dust TSS shot though...Geo
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[quote=HomelessjOe] This photo says a lot about a person. The ignorance and stupidity it takes to do something like this is mind boggling, but the gall it takes to put it on the internet and act proud of it is beyond comprehension. One of most repulsive, abhorrent photos I've seen here, ever. Just a sick act. JR What is wrong with that picture? Do you not know what a game hog is? Classic example here. Not to mention being proud of it. JR
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bOgus jealous John Roberts....if'n that there pile had 7 turkeys in it then I'd a been an illegal game hAwg. Too much "friendly fire" around here lately. If anyone here is a for real turkey hunter, it is probably jOe. I think he ought to reconsider fairy dust TSS shot though...Geo George George George.... if'n I'd have had the old Scott stoked with magic fAiry dust there's no telling how many dead turkeys would've been in that pile.... Might've been some dead ones in the next county.
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Well, Frank, after pages of posts it boils down to this: You can kill turkeys with a fancy $1500 12 ga. auto shooting $2 shells (which was never in dispute) and I can kill turkeys with "junk" (your words) $130 single-shot .410 and a $91 20 gauge single-shot shooting $3-6 TSS shells. ( Which shouldn't be in dispute unless you contend the photos of the turkeys in my photos got up and ran away after the photo ops or were shot with something else. ) I put my money where my mouth was when I offered publicly in this forum to send you my guns and ammo at MY EXPENSE for you to shoot and then tell the world what you thought, but instead, as usual, you find it easier to put insults where your mouth is. Were your fingers crossed when you earlier said you felt you had a right to criticize SOMETHING YOU TRIED (a scoped shotgun) but declined my offer? I could care less what you shoot, but you seem to care an awfully lot what I and others shoot but won't answer coosa's repeatedly asked question: Are you against tungsten shot because it is too effective or not effective enough? As he said, it can't be both.
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I am far too terrible of a turkey hunter to enter into this fight, but I have to say that I have always admired the good turkey hunters. You southern gentlemen surely have a turkey prowess that impresses me. I have to admit, I do not have the commitment and discipline to put in the time and work to do my due diligence for a truly serious hunt. I'm usually torn between the turkey hunt and wetting a line on a cold morning stream. But as I said, to those who do and do well, my hats off to you...
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Id love to hunt turkey some day with a dog like, Buster. Im an avid quail hunter and have 8 bird dogs, 7 pointers and a setter. I know what Im doing with them after having my 1st bird dog at age 8, 51 years ago, but I wouldnt have a clue how to train a turkey dog. Id love to see a good turkey dog in action some time.
Socialism is almost the worst.
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