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I thought it was a friendly dog.....gee how fast things change. I grew it just for you sweety p1e.


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Originally Posted By: SKB
Those are kids who experienced something awful which I hope to never experience myself. It was not actors but Alex Jones exploiting the situation. Come back to reality for just a moment.


You are wrong...

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How so?


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Originally Posted By: SKB
Craig you are paranoid.....

....I do not know how they do in the state of Oregon....

.....Craig, how Do you feel about the very real loss of gun rights being proposed....

....We have an image problem Craig. We do not need the NRA saying"white mothers crying on TV is ratings gold" could she have said something more stupid? I do not think so.

Okay, I'll just sit around and be paranoid, fair enough?

What again do we have to spend money on to strengthen background checks? I mentioned digitizing not because it's law, but strengthening to you means everything is a-okay. Isn't that a great image builder. I believe we're both thinking that law may be changing, if it's in regard to 'strengthening' background checks, wouldn't that have to do with searchable data bases, not thumbing through old forms?

I think you and I are on the same page. You won't explain what strengthen means, and I am opposed to knee jerk reactions based on ratings gold. You want a better image, but won't explain how to get there, while I'm stuck with being paranoid enough to know that you won't be able to explain how throwing money at background checks will fix the image. Didn't the background check work perfectly, but the will to do a decent job wasn't there?

Sure, there are stupid statements. Why do you bother going through your various explanations and reasonings, when all that matters is a simple statement? There are many stupid statements made by the gun control crowd, why don't they create an image problem for the grabbers? Me, I wouldn't discount what a difficult and vital roll the NRA plays and is effective at.

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Think about it. Every American courthouse, every airport, and most governmental offices of any size have metal detector screening with security guards present. Shouldnt the money be better spent on the same level of security for schools? Second, putting AR's on the Class III list is not an inherently bad idea. Nobody disputes that full auto on the list is a reasonable restriction. Problem is , how do you handle the million or so AR's already in the public domain? Not an easy answer for that. Last, I wish some forum members would stop with the ad hominem attacks. It is childish and counterproductive. Just sayin'.

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We have better reporting on crimes than most states and that database is searchable. That is where our money goes in Colorado. They put more resources towards tracking the bad guys and making sure they do not buy through legal dealers.

Not into a database of gun buyers and the guns they purchase. That does not exist. How is that a bad thing? A few bucks for a transfer is not the end of my world.

That is what I mean by strengthen. The church shooter in TX was convicted and prohibited by law from owning firearms but passed his back ground check because the Air force did not report his crime. All I am suggesting is more accuracy and through reviews.

I appreciate the job the NRA does I do not appreciate the way they do it. Totally inappropriate comments on CNN as well as by Lapierre at CPAC. I want him to fight for my gun rights not talk about socialist conspiracy theories.


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background checks mandated and originated at the federal level is the reason why the current system is so ineffectual...for background checks to be really valuable, they need to originate at the local level, move next to the state level and then finally to the federal level...the present system as it is now configured is ass backwards...

and yes, metal detector screening in all public places where mass murders may strike is an obvious, common sense and proven effective means of increasing public security...


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THE OTHER DAY I NEEDED SOME QUICK ADVICE ON A TRICKY CONSTITUTIONAL QUESTION!!! So I reasoned I could do one of the following:
a). Get on a city bus going through the working class district, sit in the back and ask the cleaning ladies.
b). Walk into a bar at midnight on Friday night and ask the local drunk.
c). Post the question on DGS for the local political ranters who somehow, on a website dedicated to technical issues, feel compelled to destroy every line with ad hominem attacks and poorly thought out BLATHER.

Well, I chose a and b because at least I'd get a coherent answer in relatively polite form from people who stayed on topic..and I can end the conversation - by getting ff the bus, or buy the drunk another drink.

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Originally Posted By: Argo44
THE OTHER DAY I NEEDED SOME QUICK ADVICE ON A TRICKY CONSTITUTIONAL QUESTION!!! So I reasoned I could do one of the following:
a). Get on a city bus going through the working class district, sit in the back and ask the cleaning ladies.
b). Walk into a bar at midnight on Friday night and ask the local drunk.
c). Post the question on DGS for the local political ranters who somehow, on a website dedicated to technical issues, feel compelled to destroy every line with ad hominem attacks and poorly thought out BLATHER.

Well, I chose a and b because at least I'd get a coherent answer in relatively polite form from people who stayed on topic.


A simple “This isn’t ‘Nam, there are rules” would have sufficed.


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Hey Lonesome, knowing your love for great music, I figured you'd want to hear this one:

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALGkQq3RJ7k>

About as useful as anything we're going to get on this subject from a group as diverse as we are...Geo

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