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I suppose it would beg the question, do you think this would work? I think there have been many examples of throwing money at projects to feel a bit better about things, but how can this prevent sensationalizing the next shooting?

It's safe to say that there will be multiple school related shooting fatalities in Chicago in the coming week, but it won't be splashed on tv to further an agenda, nor will there be a call for extra counselors. Maybe, the money would be best spent countering the divisive 'news' outlets? If there are hundreds of millions of firearms in the country and only one was capable of making the evening news, shame on us for helping them profit from it?

A few bucks identifying the sheepdogs would've been money well spent. I think it would be tough to make a case against the football coach having a weapon and using it. But, in today's world there would be ideological critics and mountains of legal expenses if the shooter were the only one killed.

I'm sure it's more accurate where I taught high school (rural/small town Iowa), but there were several teachers, both places I taught, who were either vets or hunters or target shooters--or all of the above. So they had a certain amount of training and experience already. I had Iowa CC and would have been willing to carry in school. Would have worked harder on my handgun skills, as I think most would if they were to accept that responsibility.

And I've known high school counselors, both good and bad. The good ones do a great job of identifying problems. But the issue is, laws would have to be changed in order to keep the student in question from owning guns, or perhaps accessing guns owned by others in his home. Right now, the only way you can keep guns away from them is by committing them to a mental institution. If that information is reported to the FBI, then it would stop them from purchasing a gun when the background check is made. However, they could get around that by purchasing from a private seller. Hard to plug all the loopholes, and even the best counselors and the most observant parents aren't always going to catch the warning signs. There is no foolproof way to make the world 100% safe.

A doctor recommended my younger friend put his juvenile son on riddling...I talked him out of it by explaining that his son was just a kid being a kid. His son grew up lost his bad habits and grew up to be a fine young man. Had he listened to the doctor who knows where his son would be now.

A simple solution...no kid on prescription anti depressants should have access to a firearm in the home or other wise.

Holding the parent/parents accountable for putting them on drugs then allowing access to firearms makes more sense than punishing the general population.

If the guy had did his duty less kids might have died.

My great grandfather fought with the South and lived through the Civil War and lived a fruitful life.

I knew a man that landed on the beaches at Normandy and walked on dead bodies to get to the shore....his son told me some nights he jumped straight out of bed but he was a man and lived a normal fruitful life.

I knew another man that went down on two ships in the Pacific another that had his lower teeth shot out by machine gun fire on a Japanese island...they both lived fruitful lives. I'm sure others have known real men.

I had two uncles in Germany and another in North Africa...they also lived fruitful PTSD free lives.

I know some of these vets have had a ruff time but none endured what men did in the Civil War, World War I or II.

A lot of this modern day PTSD has to be drummed up.

Tragic failures on every level
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/02/23/flo...kolas-cruz.html

and this
A visit by a mental health clinician at Henderson Behavioral Health ended with a determination Cruz �was not at risk to harm himself or others,� and the teen was instructed to sign a safety contract.

(The qualifications of the "clinician" are not mentioned.)

He told police that voices in his head -- called �demons� by law enforcement sources -- told him to carry out the attack.

And we're all way to sophisticated today to believe self-mutilation (he was a cutter) and homicidal violence could have anything to do with demonic possession. His Public Defender says he is "just a child with poor impulse control."

You being a man of the cloth should know you can't fix evil....

Amen jOe. I can't do a thing, but the Holy Spirit can.

But God expects us to be providers, protectors, and priests (intercessors and teachers) for our families, and for widows and orphans (single moms and parentless kids - James 1:27).
Our church has a well armed and well trained security team for that reason.

Ted, I'm fine with the fact you've demonstrated. My point has no sympathy for shooters. It's not their treatment I care about. It's their identification and their being prevented from arming themselves. School shooters aren't intimidated by armed resistance. They expect to die. They shoot themselves.