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Sorry, poor typing. I meant to say, I am looking at a Francotte single barrel trap, 12 ga., SN 81283, with intention of buying it. Can anyone tell me anything about this gun, when it was made, anything else?

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Hello Mike Scelzo
Welcome on your first postings smile

When made is easy if you look at the proof marks
http://www.shotguns.se/html/belgium.html

Griffin & Howe may be able to give birth history

Bob Beach is the fella
http://secure.griffinhowe.com/Research-getserial.cfm?make=2216

https://www.thefirearmsforum.com/threads/a-francotte.88029/

http://griffinhowe.com/

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Update:

Because Factory Ammo is hard to find and very expensive, my 450-400-3-1/4" has been sent out for re-regulating to my favorite hand-load.

I'm also having the ventilated recoil pad replaced with a red Decelerator pad while its being re-regulated.

I'll be posting some targets in the near future.

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***** UPDATE ***** JULY 20, 2018 *****

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Well I've received the rifle back yesterday. Total time was less than 9-weeks from when it was sent away for its face-lift. Since the rifle was almost 90 years old, I decided to add a number of things to the list of updates for the rifle.

The top & bottom ribs were fully re-laid and the barrels were fully re-joined. The rifle was regulated to my load specs and the barrels were rust-blued. In addition, a new solid pad was installed to replace the ugly ventilated one and LOP was set at 14-3/8". Both front and rear sites were rebuilt, and lastly the frame hinge was tightened on face.

This rebuild should carry the rifle for the next 90+ years.

here are some pics.

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BEFORE AND AFTER





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Forgotten who said only accurate rifles are interesting. I admire what you've done.

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Buckstix, nice rifle - congratulations!

Just curious how is the recoil? What would you compare it to?

Thanks!

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That seems like a relatively light load. What kind of velocity do you get out of it? My 1902 Webley likes 80 grains of 4350 with the old .049 jacket 400 grain Barnes for 2085 fps and 84 grains of 4350 with the 300 grain Barnes for 2222 fps. I have tried 60 to 68 grains of 3031 with the 400 but 4350 was better.

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Hello King Brown,

Thanks for the reply.

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Buckstix, nice rifle - congratulations!

Just curious how is the recoil? What would you compare it to?

Thanks!

Hello 1cdog,

Thanks for the reply.

Recoil with this light bullet is nearly the same as a 7 pound 30-06 shooting a 165g bullet.

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That seems like a relatively light load. What kind of velocity do you get out of it? My 1902 Webley likes 80 grains of 4350 with the old .049 jacket Barnes for 2085 fps and 84 grains of 4350 with the 300 grain Barnes for 2222 fps. I have tried 60 to 68 grains of 3031 with the 400 but 4350 was better.

Hello HalfaDouble,

Thanks for the reply.

Yes, it is a relatively light load at under 1800 fps. This is intended to be my "fun" double for medium game. With heavier bullets at higher velocities, the groups un-cross. I have over a dozen other "BIG" doubles (up to and including a 700NE) for serious work.

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Buckstix, that makes a lot of sense. Beautiful and fun to shoot, too. Reregulating would have definitely been necessary. Where did you have it done?

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Originally Posted By: HalfaDouble
Buckstix, that makes a lot of sense. Beautiful and fun to shoot, too. Reregulating would have definitely been necessary. Where did you have it done?

Hello HalfaDouble,

Thanks for the reply.

All the work was done by Ken Owen.

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