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Originally Posted By: treblig1958
Just like your bozo economist predicted the stock market will tank if Trump gets elected. What drugs was he on?


He must have been "your bozo" because those on top will have more money to buy their own company stock to raise its prices. Let us hope this time it will be different. I have no problem in corporate tax breaks if they help regular employees and create more jobs.

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No, your bozos,

Simon Johnson, a former chief economist of the IMF, a professor at MIT Sloan, a senior fellow at the Peterson Institute for International Economics, and co-founder of a leading economics blog, The Baseline Scenario had perhaps the most panicked reaction, in keeping with his status as America’s most authoritative economists. “With the United States’ presidential election on November 8, and a series of elections and other political decisions fast approaching in Europe, now is a good time to ask whether the global economy is in good enough shape to withstand another major negative shock. The answer, unfortunately, is that growth and employment around the world look fragile. A big adverse surprise – like the election of Donald Trump in the US – would likely cause the stock market to crash and plunge the world into recession,” Johnson wrote on October 29, 2016.

Ian Winer, director of equity sales trading for the securities firm Wedbush, predicted a 50 percent fall in stocks if Trump won.

Mark Cuban. “I can say with 100 percent certainty that there is a really good chance we could see a huge, huge correction,” Cuban told CNN. “That uncertainty potentially as the president of the United States — that’s the last thing Wall Street wants to hear.”


All of them contributors to the Hillary campaign. So they're your bozos.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-stock-market-could-crash-if-donald-trump-is-elected-2016-10-31

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/...h-if-trump-won/

Definition of a bozo, "Frequently wrong but never in doubt."

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[quote=Jagermeister]The only thing I used to get regularly was Precision Shooting enjoying Michael Petrov articles when they appeared. Used to get Shooting Gazette and Sporting Gun on fairly consistent basis. When Precision Shooting went away regular magazine getting went away. I see corporate top executive compensation was mentioned above. Well, they just got huge gift from this administration. Anyone believing that corporate tax cuts will provide more jobs, pay or benefits to regular workers is either in delusional state or on rather intense regimen of psychedelic drugs. [/quote

Sigh - Please pay attention. I reference recent press releases from BoA, Comcast, Boeing, Fifth Third Bank and others who are awarding year end bonuses because of the tax bill. Reductions in the corporate tax rate have been enabled this. Furthermore, it is likely that some corporations will find it advantageous to repatriate some offshored operations because of the tax rate reduction. We will see how this develops. Personally, the stock market offers a better return than a SxS. Since Trump took office the Dow Jones has benefitted those with 401K plans and allowed some underfunded pension plans to gain ground. Does any of this make sense? These positive developments benefit a wide range of our citizenry, some more than others, but hey we aren’t living in O’bamas utopian paradise any longer. My advice to you is get your head out of your ass, turn off MSNBC, and pay attention to the good things happening in this country. I’m having a hard time with my New Years resolution of suffering trolls and fools. Please forgive me.

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Originally Posted By: Jagermeister
The only thing I used to get regularly was Precision Shooting enjoying Michael Petrov articles when they appeared. Used to get Shooting Gazette and Sporting Gun on fairly consistent basis. When Precision Shooting went away regular magazine getting went away. I see corporate top executive compensation was mentioned above. Well, they just got huge gift from this administration. Anyone believing that corporate tax cuts will provide more jobs, pay or benefits to regular workers is either in delusional state or on rather intense regimen of psychedelic drugs.


No thanks for hijacking this nice thread.

Here's my vote that you remove yourself from this site and never return with your socialist agenda.
JR

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My fault but my head was about to explode....

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So was mine.

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Other than DGJ, which I still enjoy, I still subscribe to Rifle And Handloader magazines. Still enough of interest that I’ve kept them coming. And there is always the Gun Digest annual, which I have all the way back to the first edition from 1944. My kids will have to deal with the disposition when I’m gone.

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Originally Posted By: Jagermeister


He must have been "your bozo" because those on top will have more money to buy their own company stock to raise its prices. Let us hope this time it will be different. I have no problem in corporate tax breaks if they help regular employees and create more jobs.


Many millions of US citizens, including me, have much of their retirement savings invested in stocks. Most of us are not wealthy.

For example. An elderly relative, who had spent her entire working life as an hourly production worker, recently passed away. After twenty years of retirement, including more than a year in an expensive self-funded assisted-living facility, her estate included several hundred thousand dollars worth of stocks accumulated over a working lifetime.

Unlike in socialistic societies, in the US, workers and capitalists are not mutually exclusive groups.

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Interesting topic. I quit subscribing to Shooting Sportsman about 4 years ago. Most of the articles were about hunting in places that I knew I would never go to. I'd call them expensive canned hunts. Not hard to kill a bunch of birds in a place that has a bunch of birds that only the (mostly) well to do can go to. Myself and my friends have weekend bird dogs that are fairly trained that can find birds if there are birds to be found. I certainly did enjoy articles about fine guns or buying used guns (what to look for), but decided like others there was too much fluff and too much of an "Upper Crust" feel to the magazine. I do describe to DGJ, and some of their articles can provide historical information about a particular gun or its owner or provide how things were done regarding gun making in the classic days of gun making, when skilled handiwork was King.

It would be interesting to know what the circulation is for Shooting Sportsman is these days as compared to what it was about 20 years ago. Also would be interesting to see what their books look like and how many dollars come from those fancy adds and how much comes from subscribers.

Like Romac, I have the winter copy here at the house of DGJ and haven't even opened it yet. I did however take my pup out bird hunting twice last week and would be doing it today if the wind chills weren't in the single digits. Much more fun to be walking in the fields following a young setter then reading a glossy mag for sure.


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People always see things through their own lenses.

It's entirely possible that Steve is mistaken, and the rest of you just jumped into a contract negotiation canard without any facts or knowledge.

I wouldn't be so quick to grab the pitchforks and go storming the castle. The marketing reality is that most of you are old, and are done buying.

An aspirational magazine doesn't need you other than as a circulation chit. The magazine needs aspirational readers to serve their advertisers, the very people so many of you seem to despise. You aren't buying, they are.

Steve will either make a new deal or won't. But you will still be old and done buying from their advertisers.

Aging out of a genre is a natural step of life.


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