doublegunshop.com - home Forums General Discussion DoubleGun BBS @ doublegunshop.com Bob Allen Absorb-A-Coil Harness

I have the PAST model which I feel certain is the same thing. I am sure you are aware that the recoil reduction, for the most part, is the result of spreading the impact over a larger area of your shoulder rather than just behind the butt pad. The shoulder is still going to move and actually perhaps more with the "asorb a coil". I tell you this as a caution.

I have rotator cuff problems again but at 77 I don't want more surgery. I can still shoot skeet because of an excersize that a friend showed me. I simply take a 10 pound weight , bend over and make 20 6 inch circles to the left and the same to the right. Then I do it again making 30 inch circles in both directions. I shot roughly 8000 targets last year pain free because of this 5 minute excersize. I shoot a K-80 , not a gas gun.

bill

I have had both shoulder worked on several times but no full reconstruction due to rotator cuff being completely gone. It is coming I'm afraid. Hoping to put it off another few years. Anyways I have delayed both surgeries for several years by doing a series of physical therapy exercises to build up strength and range of motion in both shoulders. When I had the last shoulder worked on to reattach a ligament, clean up a minor cartilage issue and remove three bone spurs the first day of physical therapy I had more range of motion and strength than the P-therapist targets for completion of treatment after several weeks. My Physical therapy was nothing and I was done in just a few visits. They of course wanted more sessions for the insurance money but admitted I did not need them.

Do your homework in advance and the physical therapy is nothing, let those muscles grow weak and let that joint loose your range of motion and it is merry hell trying to get it back. You don't need to lift big weights either, it is smaller weights, stretching, range of motion and repetitions to make the joint stronger. And yes it hurts like hell sometimes but man candy, ibuprofen, takes care of that and the improvement will amaze you. Not saying you can rebuild your own shoulder this way but a lot of the problems seem to be reduced and if you get to a livable situation you can delay surgery for a time.

You can see a physical therapist to get exercise program put together to make your shoulder better. Most insurance companies want you to try that before surgery anyways as one of their classic delaying tactics, so make it work for you.

Thanks for the tips. I don't think the insurance is going to be a problem because we have the MRI to confirm the tear. And I'm on MediCare with a supp plan, so they expect old farts to have shoulder problems. I am pretty active and still using the arm, but have learned to isolate the shoulder joint and only lift things close to my body, mostly forearm lifts on that side. Last week I carried 1100 pounds of limestone up the stairs in 50 pound chunks (remodeling project) and I was a little stiff the next day. So, still functional but limited duty. I have started shooting featherlite target loads from NobelSport and Clever in my 20s, and they work well on doves but don't cycle the gas gun reliably. I'm looking for some sort of pad so that I can go back to O/Us and SxSs for doves and quail, and save the gas guns for pheasants and ducks.

I like Eveo shield for volume shooting and test firing heavy recoil guns.

I have a PAST that you can have for the mailing. I can prolly cram it in a $7 priority box. The thing is pretty much new. PM or email if ya want it.
Charlie

Wonko, thanks for the offer. I need to do a little research on the PAST, so I'll get back to you. Leaving tomorrow for Yuma doves. Woohoo!!!

Past pads are great. I use one in the pocket of my shooting vest. I can't remember who made the vest with the "pad pocket" but that is the way to go in my opinion. In Argentina, the Past harness is what I would use.

I'm not a doctor and I don't play one on TV, but...

As I understand it a 'rotator cuff' is a system of muscles that move the upper arm up and away from the body.

Since a 'shoulder fired gun' actually sits on the pectoral muscle, I'm curious how a recoil pad could help.

It won't lift the gun for you, and even if it helps with fatigue it might encourage you to do something that you really shouldn't be doing and the result could be, as you fear, more damage.

Were it me, I'd lay off shooting and get the thing fixed while it still can be.

I concur based on my past experience with shoulder issues and surgery.
Karl