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The only thing I don't understand about dealers is why all they seem to attract a certain following of 'groupies' who love them.
Rest assured as soon as you post the dealer's name there will be a backlash from guys who will tell you they would slice out their own liver for the guy.
I guess it's kinda like how I don't understand how anyone could follow the Rev. Jim Jones, Jimmy Baker, or Madonna.
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 He runs a big add in Double Gun Journal. They better get to cutting....he screwed me out of a 100 bucks shipping and wasted about a week or more of my time. Here's another pic it's kind of hard to see in the picture but I can assure you I could see it without glasses...and I'm blind as a bat up close.
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Any gun dealer will tell you he is an expert on guns when he is looking to buy your gun and is in the process of pointing out all the flaws. He will assure you he knows so much about guns that you will need to sell him your gun because he can tell your gun is actually a fake made of cheddar cheese with a clever paint job.
The same dealer will tell the guy he is looking to sell the same gun to that he is not much of an expert on guns and it's entirely possible he could miss something that any other human with eyes would see.
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Any gun dealer will tell you he is an expert on guns when he is looking to buy your gun and is in the process of pointing out all the flaws. He will assure you he knows so much about guns that you will need to sell him your gun because he can tell your gun is actually a fake made of cheddar cheese with a clever paint job.
The same dealer will tell the guy he is looking to sell the same gun to that he is not much of an expert on guns and it's entirely possible he could miss something that any other human with eyes would see. So true.............
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I can see it in both photos and I would be extremely upset with a "dealer" who would ship me a gun like that without telling me about it first. If he "didn't see it" then he should definitly pick up the shipping costs......he's a professional and gets paid to see such things. He should pay if he didn't!
I, for one, would like to know another name to avoid. If its one of my guys I'm keeping my liver!
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I can see the problem; but what caused it? I'm thinking of events or custodianship from which no gun could return...
How the hell can someone with even a rudimentary knowledge of guns not see it?!
Name and shame!
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Attention mall shoppers, or oaken and leather gunroom old h0meless0ne?
The asking price tells many tales!
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Anyone else having trouble seeing the pictures? In any case, I hope you get your shipping money and then some for the wasted time.
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Lowell the asking price was astrO'nomical...
The part that really ticked me off was that I asked him point blank with the gun in his hand.
I said..."I know the gun has been restored that doesn't bother me if it's a good job..look it over really good. What fault kind you find with this gun ?"
His reply was..."The only thing I can see wrong with it is the color case is too bright"....I replied "thats probaly the least of my worries" at which he replied "that's all I can see wrong with the gun".
The Makers name was polished from the rib not a big deal but the pits up the rib were. I could've lived with that but not the smash...the smash was about 7 or 8 inches up from the breech plugs on the right side of the rib....there is only one way to smash a rib without denting or damaging the barrel.
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Cadet it's a muzzleloader with re-case colored breech plugs ?
That's the key to the damage. I'm no gunsmith but I do talk to a really good one all the time. He told me that when you go removing breech plugs he builds wooden blocks to contour to the barrel...my best guess is the guy that removed the breech plugs during restoration crushed or smashed the rib. The rib was only smashed on the right side the breech plugs would screw out counter clockwise.
The barrel tubes on this gun inside and out were pistine. I couldn't spot any damage to the tubes with high magnification....I gave it alot of thought but I wondered if the damascus tubes could be damaged from the stress of mashing the rib on the right side.
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