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I've had one interaction with John. I inquired about a smaller item he had listed here, less than $50. I got a pretty curt response that he doesn't ship international. Boom, conversation over. Had he responded a little differently than just cutting me off he would have heard that I would be asking him to ship to an address in Texas I've never had business with John, so can't speak to that, I do ship internationally, if I am shipping to Canada the first question I ask is "do you know anyone in the states that's close to you so I can ship to them and save you some money" that's how I handle it, not real complicated. TM
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I've also done business with John Boyd and it has always been a complete pleasure. I don't buy many expensive guns, but if I do I will not hesitate to call on him. However I'll be very careful not to waste his time...Geo
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When I was a teenager I worked at a grocery store through most of my high school years. During my senior year I decided I wanted to look at used Corvettes. I answered an ad for a 1956 Corvette. When I showed up the seller immediately decided I was just a “tire kicker” and proceeded to treat me like crap. After looking at the car as best as I could with Mr. Anal Sphinctermuscle breathing down my neck, he finally asked me in a belligerent manner “Well are you going to buy it or not?” You should’ve seen his eyes open wide when I pulled a big wad of cash from my pocket. Right in front of him I counted out his asking price and then said “I’d love to buy this Corvette, but not from you!” and I turned around and walked away.
John, I wonder how many sales you’ve lost because of a bad attitude.
Steve
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Tmair:
Not once did you say you had a US address. If you would have I would have shipped.
John
John Boyd
Quality Arms Inc
Houston, TX
713-818-2971
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Tmair:
Not once did you say you had a US address. If you would have I would have shipped.
John Still not paying attention to your customers, John. That was canvasback's statement, not TMair's. SRH
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So I hesitated to weigh in on this with my two cents worth since it’s not even worth that!! I am a hunter, shooter, collector. I frequent gun shops, pawn shops, internet sites, gun shows and dealers. I am sure there are times that I have frustrated the bejeebers out of some of them. I have asked for a bottom dollar price and if it is to far from what I think it’s worth I walk away. May frustrate the seller but don’t intend to. I also set up occasionally at gun shows and have the same thing happen to me, it is what it is. You never know when the right person will come along and fall in love with whatever you are selling, as I have done that before and paid the asking price. I get that John may get frustrated as we all do in our chosen vocation. I am in large account sales/account management and there are times I’m frustrated w/my customers. Heck, we joke (amonst my colleagues) that it would be a great job if it wasn’t for the customers!! Bottom line is you never know when that majic is going to happen and your going to make that sale!!
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Tmair:
Not once did you say you had a US address. If you would have I would have shipped.
John Yeah, wasn't me, had it been I would have looked at the POR where the price was supposed to be and moved on. TM
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Tmair:
Not once did you say you had a US address. If you would have I would have shipped.
John While you have me mixed up with TMair, yup, that's correct. I never did say it. I didn't say it because I felt you had treated me poorly in your abrupt dismissal of me as a potential customer as soon as you realized or remembered I live in Canada. But I'm just one person and that's just one incident. I'm still curious about all the times members here have called gun dealers "crooks". Is it just me that has missed those threads and posts? Does anyone else think it's fair or reasonable that John defends his complaining about his customers based on the idea that we regularly call gun dealers "crooks" and no one defends the dealers?
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Tmair:
Not once did you say you had a US address. If you would have I would have shipped.
John Still not paying attention to your customers, John. That was canvasback's statement, not TMair's. SRH Never interrupt your opponent when he is making a mistake. _________________________ Napoleon Dynamite. (might have been Bonaparte)
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This happens plenty of times:
Not to me but other dealers too:
Guy ask what is your best price and I say to him I will listen to your best offer.
That ends that conversation, always afraid to make a real offer
We know in the trade that they are not serious
John
I know what the fair market value is. I ask if the gun is consignment or owned by the seller. Based on that knowledge I make reasonable offer which will not insult the seller. If that is rejected I will follow with what in CASH what will you accept? One must keep in mind is that I do not pay for mistakes of others.
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