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Last edited by Daryl Hallquist; 10/21/17 09:55 AM.
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Yeah, that LB #5196.1848 is an interesting one w/ the stamps of Armurier or Arquebusier Fleurey à Vesoul.
Cheers,
Raimey
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With just 2 datapoints for the 1850s decade:
5196.1848 - Arquebusier Fleurey à Vesoul
12377.1859 - P. Mullin
That would approach 700 / year for the 1840s decade.
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Raimey
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Again w/ 2 datapoints for the 1840s:
4044 . 1845 - Ferdinand Claudin à Paris
5196 - 1848 - Arquebusier Fleurey à Vesoul
Would yield about 400/year if the numbers are LB.
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3583 - 1843 - DEVISME BREVETÉ À PARIS for King Louis Philippe
4044 . 1845 - Ferdinand Claudin à Paris
5196 - 1848 - Arquebusier Fleurey à Vesoul
6084 - 1850
A few more datapoints but he seems to hold around 400/year in production but could dip into the 300s / year in the 1840s.
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An addition or two:
11868.1858 - difficult to read the oxidized numerals
12377.1859 - P. Mullin
16367.1863 - Charton Fils à Marseille 12 bore
16480.1863 - J. Murat
17388.1864 - John Krider
19526.1866 - Roosevelt cased Lefaucheux à Paris
20374.1867
20938.1868 - Lefaucheux
215?2.1868
22239.1869 - Genez, New York - 8 bore pinfire
22369.1869 - Provided by current retailer
22326.1869 - signé Lefaucheux – Laffiteau
22529.1870 - Laurdere
22530.1870 - Laurdere
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Raimey
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Ran across this posting:
"PURDAY, ST JAMES STREET LONDON, DOYE A PARIS .....
LEOPOLD BERNARD / CONONNIER / A PARIS ..26.1861"
I assume Purdey and wish the post had included the two other numbers ??26.1861. Anyone know if Purdey did use tubesets of Léopold Bernard à Paris?
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Below is the compiled data available
As you can see, the business grew steadily until the 1860s and never recovered from the Prussian war and the Belgian competition. Probably the death of LB was also involved.
Note: the averages are computed over the last 5 previous samples if available
Best regards,
WC-
Leopold Bernard
# year maker Approx/year
1 1832
3583 1843 Devisme 326
4044 1845 Claudin 311
5196 1848 Fleurey 325
6084 1850 Lepage-Moutier 338
7803 1853 Lepage 422
8184 1854 Perrin 460
11868 1858 667
12377 1859 Mullin 699
16367 1863 Charton 856
16480 1863 Murat 922
17388 1864 Krider 920
19526 1866 Lefaucheux 1021
20374 1867 1002
20938 1868 Lefaucheux 892
22239 1869 Genez 970
22326 1869 Lefaucheux 933
22369 1869 998
22529 1870 Laurdere 796
23177 1870 938
24759 1873 Faure Lepage 608
25605 1874 Faure Lepage 647
27268 1877 677
29601 1881 584
30685 1882 Guyot 658
35237 1898 Roblin 401 H
35321 1898 Rieger 383 H
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WC:
Interesting about the external forces of the Prussian War & Belgian emulators(Copy Cats). I for one would like to view #1 of 1832 if you have it?
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Raimey
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Re: the "Purday"
Could be a fake or could be a later rebarrel.
I have never ever heard of Purdey not providing their own barrels.
As far as I know they have never had a shop in Paris either.
But of course there is no such thing as a "cononnier".
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