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I don't know about you, but I have noticed certain guns just feel good, and feel 'right'. I recently bought a Beretta A400 parallel target with 32" barrels and it is that way. I also shoot it extremely well (after some minor shim adjustments and after taking a file to the worlds worst trigger). I can't put my finger on why this gun feels so good?? I have seen and have owned far better and more expensive competition guns, but rarely do I find one that feels as good as this very affordable Beretta automatic. Odd.
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It's blend of good weight distribution in a gun that is not too heavy. Personally I like light weight coupled with long barrels.
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It's the 'Italian formula'.
The key is the 'lively' front end.
The Beretta automatic series has been evolving for a long time.
The 391 was very popular, and with good reason. The R&D people are the guys responsible for the excellent handling of these guns. They simply did their homework very well, and clearly involved 'average Giuseppe' in the final equation. Most everyone shoots a Beretta auto well, and they make a great general purpose shotgun. Their only flaw is called 'bent carrier syndrome' and fortunately is fixable with a drop in aftermarket part.
I recently traded for a Tekny's model 391, and fortunately it came with a good trigger at 3 lbs. 12 oz. This is not always so, but Rich Cole can tune a trigger for you easily.
Another benefit is the easy parts and service available for these guns.
I enjoy all makes and styles but on a longish and challenging SC course I usually select the Beretta auto or Cynergy Sport, another natural pointer with a lively barrel set.
"The price of good shotgunnery is constant practice" - Fred Kimble
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A nice wipe down with G-96 after running a hundred straight.
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Ahhh! Guns that "feel" good when you pick them up. I hate that!!
I was recently traveling your good country and found time to stop into a gunshop or two. I picked up a nice little 16 gauge in one of the shops and it "felt" great! Just what I like and it had some other desirable attributes.
However it also has some problems that mean it's a "project" gun if I bought it and the last thing I need is another "project" gun. So I'm trying to convince myself not to buy it and running out of objections!
My old mantra...."This will be awesome when I've got it the way I like it!" I have five of those in the safe or with smiths now!
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I believe with D. Amos' spinner, you could find them sight unseen.
No question that I shoot a slow MOI gun better for the first 100, then a faster gun better for the second.
Out there doing it best I can.
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I believe with D. Amos' spinner, you could find them sight unseen.
No question that I shoot a slow MOI gun better for the first 100, then a faster gun better for the second. Yes. Don has been able to quantify the answer to your question and built a remarkable machine to measure it.
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If you find a gun that fits never part with it. I have a 12 bore Lancaster sidelock made circa 1911 with 29 inch barrels that seems to just be an extension of my mind. If I could have that magic formula transferred to every other gun I would be a happy man indeed. Lagopus.....
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I may be different from most. I don't notice when a gun "feels good" as much as I notice when one feels really bad.
What sets a gun apart, for me, is when I can pick it up after a long separation from it and crush the first pair with it, or fold the first shot of the season on doves. It has to fit pretty well to do that, and I admit that I work hard on that with my using guns.
One thing is for certain, with me. It has nothing at all to do with weight. My Perazzi MX8 weighs 9 lbs. 3 oz., and it shoots great for me. But, I also shoot my 20 ga. Beretta 687 SP II Sporting extremely well, and it comes in at 6 lbs. 5 oz.
Go figure.
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I owned mostly American built doubles and a few Spanish, Italian and German doubles but I have never felt anything that even remotely compares to that William Evans 16 gauge I shouldered. Perfection.
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