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Ted: the true danger of a Siren is actually holding it.
Yea, but, I wouldn't be able to get my fat face down close enough to see the bead, Lloyd, if'n it had only 1 7/8" of drop. Holding is one thing, shouldering and shooting be another entirely. Kind of like having the prettiest girl at the dance, having dinner, dancing with, and canoodling with her is what a guy lives for, but, putting up with her for the entire 30 days of the month is a whole different kettle of fish. It may be in proof at .020 and .022, but, yes indeed, a caveman like me would agree a bit more wall would be a good thing. I don't have too much stuff worth 10K that qualifies as a toy. I'd have a tough time with that even if it did fit. Best, Ted
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A really "clever" action invented by the ingenious William Baker, one of the great minds of English gunmaking.
All his actions invoke that "it is so simple, why didn't I think of that" feeling. My favorite is the BSA Single XXII.
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Almost any "lightweight" 12-bore gun you pick up will have had the barrels struck way-down from the factory. Any 2-inch gun you measure will be no-more than .022 or .023. From what I understand, guns pass proof routinely in England now that are only in the high teens (.017 & .018). When you read the barrel information provided by Holt's on lightweight gun in their auctions you will commonly encounter this on guns with very recent proof dates.
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For anyone interested, Joe Hall has a composed pair of Grant Single-Trigger 12/20's for sale at a somewhat reasonable price. Of course one tube is at the minimum .020. Take a look at the trigger guards which are reminiscent of a Purdey thumb lever look. Matched Pairs, LTD
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Almost any "lightweight" 12-bore gun you pick up will have had the barrels struck way-down from the factory. Any 2-inch gun you measure will be no-more than .022 or .023. From what I understand, guns pass proof routinely in England now that are only in the high teens (.017 & .018). When you read the barrel information provided by Holt's on lightweight gun in their auctions you will commonly encounter this on guns with very recent proof dates. Lloyd, Not a Darne. Even with the ugly backbore somebody did to the gun I got from Mr. Bodio, there is a lot of .050 wall in that gun. The 2 1/2" chamber Halifax is even heavier wall. Weight is 6lbs, 4ozs. With 27" tubes. If you are going to deal with French proof, better bring more than .020 wall, or, be prepared to bring the barrels or action home from the proofhouse in pieces. My understanding is a lot more old English guns are failing reproof. Lightweight, or, not. Best, Ted
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God help me, this gun is still available.
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On the subject of lightweight guns, I have just completed a Thomas Turner 12b 2 1/2" 27" damascus lightweight hammergun. MWT's 21 & 25. Cut-away stock, miniature forend, locks etc.
Weight? 5lb 3oz!
You could forget that you were carrying it!
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Thomas Turner's guns are really neat. That sounds like a stunning hammergun. Any chance of pix?
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Lloyd3 Hopefully over the weekend. Frantically preparing for the Vintage Gunner's Cup but should be able to get them uploaded.
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One of the board members here has a Thomas Turner lightweight, with the cut away stock, but, I can't remember who.
Geo?
Interesting gun indeed, but, again, not for a lefty, per se.
Best,
Ted
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