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So you think everyone in the world needs a different fit for a gun, eh? Meaning it is impossible for a gun not made for you to fit you perfectly. That's beyond absurd.
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JG reference Churchill's theories on barrel length; they are that theories not facts and while applicable for some, not universal.
Guns are worth what people are willing to pay for them.
What can you may value vs someone else does not reveal their or your brilliance, just willingness.
The fact is in competitive shooting people who actually do it have found what works for them and are willing to pay for it. If someone has found that percentage edge, which truly matters in the higher levels competition, that is bright.
Like you a Perazzi is not worth it to me, but to those it is, I respect their skill in eking out that edge. I would not condemn them for it.
JG when you run your straight hundred in international trap or skeet with your O/U or SxS let us know the role barrel length played?
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I would just be happy to hear when he BUYS an O/U period.
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Looking at the Perazzi shotguns most seem to be for competition compared to the Ivo Fabbri shotguns which are more inline with upland game guns. "Ivo Fabbri founded the company in 1968, eight years after he began working with Daniele Perazzi. Their dreams differed. Perazzi wanted to create the best competition gun in the world, something he realized incontrovertibly at the London 2012 Olympics, when Perazzis won 12 out of the 15 shotgun-sports medals. Fabbri, however, was inspired by the traditions of London gunmaking and simply wanted to make the best.""Yet, despite that price tag, the order book is full for the next six years. Partly its because the Fabbri Itlaian gunmakers guns have attracted a starry clientele, such as Clapton, Selleck and Spielberg; partly because the technical processes in their manufacture are so involved; but mainly, and gloriously, its because the Fabbri family does not wish to make more than 20 a year, compared to a London firms output of around 70."http://www.thefield.co.uk/shooting/fabbri-italian-gunmakers-26748
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As for me. I'll never forgive Churchill for the XXV.....been there a done that. 
Dodging lions and wasting time.....
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The idea that some people denigrate barrels longer than 28" never ceases to amaze me. The length of a set of barrels has precious little to do with the handling characteristics of a gun. Some consider 30" long, and would never consider carrying one in the uplands. However, I have a Fox 16 ga. with 30" barrels that weighs in at 6 lbs. 4 oz. Anybody who can't carry that gun needs to stay home and convalesce.
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A gun with 30" tubes, regardless of weight, would be a bit of a struggle in most grouse and woodcock thickets, Stan. Particularly, in early season.
You could do it, it just wouldn't be the best tool for the job.
I have a few guns with 28" tubes that I hoped would be a decent compromise for combined use for pheasants, grouse and woodcock. But, they were mostly just a compromise, and not the best tool for either job.
So it goes.
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It's amazing how quickly some people forget that a 30" SxS/OU'r is comparable in overall length to a 24" inch barreled semi'auto....the 34" Perazzi would compare to a 28" semi'auto.
I'm betting this same bunch would condemn a 24" Semi auto as being to short.
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It's actually about a 3 1/2" to 4" disparity in length between a semi-auto and an o/u or sxs, in general. But your point is a good one.
JR
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It's actually about a 3 1/2" to 4" disparity in length between a semi-auto and an o/u or sxs, in general. But your point is a good one.
JR And that is gauge and chamber length dependent. It can be shorter for 28 and 16 gauges which don't have modern ammo longer than 2 3/4" although 28 ga is expanding to 3" shells.
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