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Which G grade is it, the grades did run up to G70, but there were some solid working grades in the 1,2 , 3, etc?

G-guns are essentially FPs with either Unique or Self-Acting ejectors.

The gun shown most likely features the Unique ejector system.

The ejectorwork on G-guns requires some additions to the guts, but the internals are still set up like a Facile Princepts.

Grade wise, I think it's a G-45.

Beautiful gun. I would love to find one with a top safety.

OWD

The listing's very brief description said G.3. for the grade.

As I confessed in the first post, this was a rather rash purchase for me in that I did not have much information on the gun. I like Greeners and this one had great condition wood at the head of the stock, and nice original metal finish and engraving, so I'm taking a chance.

I'll post more once I have it in hand. Thanks for the comments so far.

Very pretty gun, lovely shape to the action and the fit and finish look fabulous.

Depending on the year/era, G90 and G125 guns were made.

The G1, G2 & G3 era were before the G60, G70 naming era.

Looking at a 1900 W.W. Greener catalog. In 1900 the G3 was only surpassed in quality by the G Imperial grade.

Description of a G3 from the 1900 catalog: "Best quality gun, engraved and finished in first class style. The lock, cocking, firing, and extracting mechanisms are all contained in the breech action - a sure proof of their simplicity."

A G3 is a higher grade than the G2, G1, G, M1 & M.

I received the WW Greener today. Very happy with it!

Some quick observations:

Gun is #2 of a pair. Grade is G.3. SN 55781 puts production in 1907 per Greener's book. (Matched pairs is seeking #55789, so close!)

Proofs (see pic) are Nitro Proof for 1 1/2 ozs. Chamber length isn't marked as long (regular 10 over "c").

Barrels are 30" and perfect! Has ejectors. Engraving is very nice. Trigger guard was cased not blued, based on finish on inside of bow.

No unpleasant surprises. I'd hoped for longer chambers, but that wasn't based on anything but optimism. Weight is 9 lbs even on the digital bathroom scale.

Butt was cut and later respliced. Too bad as the original wood was quite nice. Pad is a not-so-appropriate Pachmayr. Has engraved plate bearing initials "THC", writen as a "T" over an "H" over a "C".

I've posted pics below. What do you all think? (I'm very happy with it, but if something looks off (besides the butt), please share it.

CJF

More pics

What a beautiful gun. Makes me feel better just looking at it after a bad week.

Very sorry to hear you had a bad week. Hope the weekend and next week are an improvement.

I am not sure that I ever posted the additional information that Mr.Greener was kind to share.

This gun "was started the 16th of May, 1907 and finished on 12th September of the same year. It has a Facile Princeps type action and is an ejector model grade "G 3". It was made to the same specification as gun no. 54812 so it may be the no. 2 gun of a composed pair but it is not recorded as such since pairing is usually recorded. It is a 10 bore with 30 inch Sandvik steel barrels. Stock dimensions when made were 3-1/8 by 1-5/8 by 14-3/8, 14-1/4 and 14-3/4 inches, half pistol hand, normal cast of 3/16 of an inch. It was engraved with scrolls by Horrocks. The G3 grade is essentially a 'best' gun and cost 45 guineas when originally made. It was sold to 'National', probably an agent or gunshop.'

How kind of Mr. Greener to help with my inquiry.