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Alfred Field from IGC:

Name Alfred Field & Co
Other Names
Address1 77 Edmund Street
City/Town Birmingham
Country United Kingdom
Trade Gunmakers
Other Address 199a Bishopsgate Street Without, London.
Dates 1885-1908

Notes
The company were recorded at 77 Edmund Street, Birmingham from 1885 to 1908. They exhibited at the Melbourne Centennial Exhibition in 1888/1889 and gained a First Award.
In 1892 and 1893 they had a shop at 99a Bishopsgate Street Without, London.

The firm was not recorded after 1908.

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Here's a good list of the Brit proof marks which may come in useful.


http://www.hallowellco.com/british_proof%20marks%20-%20syntax%20by%20date.htm

Good info from Tim too.
I'm really not an expert on the history of blacking/browning but I believe some brit makers sold guns black and white patterned barrels yet it seems to be the 'proper' way was browning. I think either can look stunning and while I've not been asked to do a black and white set, I'd love to do some.
Perhaps Drew could comment on this, he's a mine of information on this subject.
Joseph Asbury was one of the well respected Birmingham action maker. There's a few mentions of him on this site, may be worth a search. I'd post links but I'm hopeless with the computer side of things. I've found pics of the fields gun I looked at too but cannot get my photobucket to take orders from me smile I'll see if I can post the link instead. Sadly, I've not found the pics of the flats on the one I saw.


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Thanks Tim. Thanks El Garro.

Based on the chart, unless there's some worn London mark somewhere, to me it looks like 1896-1904 Birmingham proof.

I'll be taking it apart. Would it be expected that there are more marks inside?

Yes Sir, Drew is the mine. I bugged he and a few others with damascus safety and etching questions over the last few weeks. My first set, a two bar Elsie barrel, turned out well and the comments were thankfully very positive this last weekend. The set from the Field are next, and regardless of "proper", I think I'll go with black and white since it's not unheard of to do so on a British gun.

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Originally Posted By: El Garro
Joseph Asbury was one of the well respected Birmingham action maker. There's a few mentions of him on this site, may be worth a search.

Would an actioner typically stamp their mark on the underside of the barrel? In a book I'm reading on British guns I've been reading about Anson & Deeley being the platform action that most built from. This being a sidelock, is it a particular kind/type or maker?

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Bill: It is my opinion that British guns intended for the U.S. market were usually finished in "black & white"

Hemenway's New Model, likely made by J. P. Clabrough courtesy of Bruce Bruner



as were Lindner Dalys


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Alfred Field was an Ironmonger / firearms merchant & peddled anything on which he could garner a quid.


May 28th, 1884

I don't think the subject scattergun is a sidelock but some hybrid or a Bonehill brainchild. Can you pull the locks?

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Possibly like Christopher George Bonehill's protection filed under U.S. of A. Patent Nr. 404,380 of June 4th, 1889? Haven't found a proper diagram of it.

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Can you supply a better image of the marks located inside the square?

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Originally Posted By: ellenbr


Can you supply a better image of the marks located inside the square?

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Originally Posted By: ellenbr
Can you pull the locks?

Field's Patent again:



Initials "JA" again.



And there is a shallow cartouche and a faint few letters on the other side of the water table:


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