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Hi all, what are your thoughts on this maker? "Spanish Best" gives them good reviews. What do you think (looking at sidelock models)?
Thanks!!!
Greg
Gregory J. Westberg
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Weiland devotes a chapter to V.S. which indicates that at the very least it shows up on the historical radar both here and in Spain--something which you've no doubt noticed does not apply to Pedro Gorosabel. Another "gun of Kings". Wider brand recognition should lead to a bit better "brand value" or whatever Rocketman calls it in his tier system of appraisal. Probably the best thing about defunct Spanish makers is that you can't buy a new one so the gun won't depreciate by half it's retail price out the door. If "Jay Cee" should happen to show up, I'm sure he'll have something to say on the subject. As is the case with Gorosabel, there have been occasions when several were available on Thad Scott's internet site.
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I think a V.S. above grade 7 or 8 Is in the same value as the Garbis& Arrietas if condition is equal.
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I have seen couple 12br SLEs with good engraving coverage and arcaded fences for $2000+/-200. One simply can't go wrong for this kind of coinage.
PS. I also examined couple rifles one in .458 and second was .470, both were gorgeous. Unlike newly mass produced Merkels or Chapius ones (you know, boxes with 2 barrels sticking out) these had game scene ENGRAVING (100% coverage) and beautifully engine tuned hidden surfaces.
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Keep an eye out for Stoeger imported guns made by V.S.
Most will not have anything on the gun except the gunmakers mark on the watertable to show that V.S. made it.
I picked up a nice SLnE for $400. With opened chokes it is now my steel shot waterfowler.
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I think this maker produced a wide range of quality, from fairly low to very high.
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I doubt you will find a 'fairly low' V.S. Mid to high is the norm.
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I have a 1954 Stoeger 20 bore Zephyr 4E marked on the watertable V.S with the running rabbit and it is a fine gun. Simple basic engraving, and I'll put its fitting and workmanship agianst anything less than 3K in today's market. Ejectors are precise, trigger pulls nice, checkering beats anything today at many hundreds more. Weiland is to be commended for his observations on these very nice SLE guns. I paid $775 from Crosnoe who didn't know the data on these guns. I think I got a bargain. Chops
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My buddy has one of the Stoeger-imported boxlock 12's (Woodland or something like that?) and likes it a lot.
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About the only "knock" on the Stoeger-imported Sarasquetas, which are pretty good guns--running from basic to fairly fancy--is that they were made for what was considered to be the American taste in shotguns back then. So you'll find pistol grips and pretty generous beavertails on them, which in turn means that they're heavier and have different dynamics than British game guns (or Spanish copies thereof).
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