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thank you, fab500.....

the earlier lunette gun has a unique (at least to me) stock - lower at "comb" than at heel, with an "ambidextrous" checking pattern....and viewed from the side, an almost "art deco" appearance. i have seen many photos of the lunette guns, but have never had the opportunity to handle one.

best regards,

tom

Tom,

Jusqu'en 1891, l'Idéal était monté uniquement avec une crosse arabe. A partir de cette date, elle commence à disparaitre pour laisser place à des crosses conventionnelles (demi-pistolet et anglaise).

N'oubliez pas de mettre des photos de votre Idéal Perfection, quand vous l'aurez reçu.

Une crosse arabe... Jamais entendu ça.

https://drouot.com/fr/l/15578558-fusil-juxtapose-ideal-de-manuf

Hrm! Je viens d'apprendre un nouveau terme. Merci!

https://www.naturabuy.fr/rare-fusil-ideal-pontet-lunette-crosse-arabe-collection-item-11259013.html

Ce nom vient du fait qu'elles ressemblaient aux crosses des fusils arabes Moukala.

Added to the dictionary (Updates now on p.14):
https://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=480959&page=all

Crosse - stock
...Crosse arab - Stock with a smoothly tapering neck to a sinuous butt.
...Crosse anglaise - English straight stock
...Crosse à joue - stock with cheek piece
...Crosse de borgne - crossover stock
...Crosse demi-pistolet - half pistol grip stock resembling a "Prince of Wales"
...Crosse pistolet - pistol grip stock

after more aggravation than i want to admit, a blind hog may have stumbled onto an acorn....



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hopefully these MAY lead to the pictures of the morphy auction gun....i have no earthly idea why two of them come up as photos automatically, and the other require manual labor...but, i can tell you - i'm exhausted.

Poinçon du directeur.
Après avoir vérifié scrupuleusement cette arme, le directeur de la Manu y fera apposer ce poinçon.

Par contre, je vois seulement les 2 dernières photos.

would a translator please come to the courtesy phone....fab500 is offering wisdom, and it's going over my head...

and, a particular question for fab500, i seem to recall him (?) stating that some of the guns manu marketed were covered by "special serial numbers". both the barrels and the action flats are marked with "2437", with the 2 lightly struck in both locations. might that be a special numbering mark?


best regards,
tom

Here you go:

Director's punch.

After scrupulously checking this weapon, the director of the Manu will have this punch affixed to it.

On the other hand, I only see the last 2 photos.


Fab,

Une question particulière pour fab500, il semble que je me souvienne de lui (?) Déclarant que certains des canons commercialisés étaient couverts par des "numéros de série spéciaux". les canons et les plats d'action sont marqués "2437", avec les 2 légèrement frappés aux deux endroits. pourrait-il s'agir d'une marque de numérotation spéciale ?

Meilleures salutations,

Tom


Best,
Ted

I see the first two photos and the other links won't work for me at all when I copy and paste into a new window.

My 7RE-C has the director stamp and PERFECTION stamped on it just like that one.