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Sidelock
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Walt, There is an interesting Nitro Special on the Lefever forun that the owner is convinced is a factory original. Your name has been bantered about as being "THE" authority to verify its authenticity. http://lefeverforum.informe.com/viewtopic.php?t=1674
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Sidelock
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Looks like something a GI got gussied up in occupied Japan or West Germany after WW-II.
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The owner of that Nitro Special is EPICALLY confused. At a minimum it's good reading for a lunchtime giggle.
I wonder if he'd take a Parker Invincible in trade...
Nudge
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I see on the Shooting Sportsman forum that Walt has been in touch with the owner and did not have much to say other than the serial number dated it to 1925.
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After reading the thread on SS I hate to discuss the gun here. Owner is very proud of it and wants to believe it is something it is not. We know what it is, but as far as I'm concerned I think I'd rather let him believe what he wants to. Everything does not require correction and often folks are happier being wrong...Geo
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I believe Pine Creek Dave is the gentleman who has been trolling a nickeled Smith for years in an attempt to locate some stolen from his family. Formerly known as Ryman Gun Dog on several forums. He knows what he has.
Dr. Bob - probably not worth confronting him but if you'd send me a PM I'll share his name. See you in Vegas.
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A Nitro Special is still a Nitro Special. After market customized guns are nice, some better than others but not factory. The metal fit on a Nitro Special is decent but not very great. If that was a custom order gun Ithaca would either have used a Flues or NID as a platform. The wood would have been a much nicer grade of blank. That just looks like they took a field stock and carved it.
To me it looks a lot like one of the upgraded guns GIs had done in Japan. I knew of a Winchester 101 which had been restocked and engraved to look like a Kreighoff Crown Grade. The pattern was there but the fine detail was not. But the owner can choose to believe whatever he wants to but saying it does not make it so and when others, with far more Lefever or Ithaca experience don't agree with his views I put more faith in them than him.
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If you want to do this to your gun have at it, but only if you have no intentions of selling it for what it is not.
I poured money into my Nitro Special to clean it up a bit with the intention it will never be for sell.
So did I lose money, how would I ever know?
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What bothers me about this gun and this guy is that he is insistent on telling people, that know way more about such things than he does, that they are wrong and know nothing. And, he thinks the gun is of high quality workmanship. It is an insult to anyone out there who does strive to do quality work. But... there is a butt for every Seat. Some just don't know what seat they are sitting in.
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Looks like something a GI got gussied up in occupied Japan or West Germany after WW-II. Like this one of a kind NID?   The problem with these fancy aftermarket upgrades, as Researcher once wisely pointed out to me, is the question of whether or not the frames were properly re-hardened after having been annealed for engraving???...Geo
Last edited by Geo. Newbern; 01/04/17 02:56 PM. Reason: added last sentence
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