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Agree,it is a mounting for;'Gilberts Shooting Corrector".Patent #53 of 1884. Details of same can be found on pages 234-235 ,0f the British Sotgun Vol; 2, by D.J.Baker and I.M. Crudgington.


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looking at yours I can see where the plate was cut off.

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A large metal "thumb" to block left-eye picture? Interesting.

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I had hopes it emited a loud whistling noise when you shot the gun....designed to signal your dog on report.

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Bob and gentlemen, this gun contains another feature that is pretty
rare. The trademark of a stonemasons hammer and what I believe is a use number 419, is that of Henry Parsons, the patentee of chopperlump barrels.These are chopperlump damascus barrels. If you look closely at the picture of the forward lump, the joint can be seen.I would suggest the conical sight is an aftermarket addition
as the makeup of the gun,the early pinfire style fences,non-rebounding locks and early patent extractor,suggest a
date of manufacture closer to 1866-68. JMHO. Terry


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Outstanding, guys. I logged off for a few hours and all my questions were answered, even one I wasn't smart enough to ask. You nailed it on the Sight Corrector. The picture is exactly the same as mine, except the plate has been broken off. Are chopper lump barrels rare on damascus? I don't see a joint line on the lumps, except for perhaps a half line on the front lump from the 4 back. I have attached a picture with the extractors off. It doesn't show much more but it is all I have right now. There is a piece dovetailed into the lug closest to the muzzle that is difficult to see from the top angle. Would that be original or a repair? I'll try to get better pictures and post them. Thanks again for all your help.

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Bob, the line you see ahead of the 4 is part of the joint and I will attach a pic of the part I could see. I have a gun by Bales of Ipswich that has the same trademark etc.with a later use number.
I believe it dates to 1867-68.Again the joint is hard to see but
there.Choppperlump damascus is certainly not common, most have dovetail lumps.
[img]http://www.hunt101.com/watermark.php?file=500/3834ChopperlumpDamascus-WSRiley.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.hunt101.com/watermark.php?file=500/3834Bales12HG-Chopperlump_Damascus-07.jpg[/img]

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Originally Posted By: Northern Bob
Thanks Pete. What date would that have been? The gun was likely made 1878-80. Maybe Riley was a rugby fan, or Reverend Wigg a shotgun fan...


They were founded in 1880.
Here is the Saints official website: http://www.northamptonsaints.co.uk/255_423.php
A fan site with club history:
http://www.rugbynetwork.net/main/s99/st9235.htm

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Was Riley the only one to use that extractor set up ?

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Williams and Powell of Liverpool sold a 12 G, hammer gun named the 'Simplex'. This gun was built to J. Williams patent #1247 of 1875. This patent included an extractor with twin external legs one each side of the barrel lumps.These legs slid in slots cut in the action bar; much the same as the Riley. Williams and Powell gun #7060 built to this patent was in my collection for many years.


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