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How late did they make the 2 screw Fulton. The one in my hand right now is 2 screw with 2 3/4" chambers.

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There were two 2 screw variants; the late model had 2 screws in the floor plate. The progression may be seen here
http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/17126039

and you can date the gun with the SN here
http://www.lcsmith.org/shotguns/manufacture.html

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Thank you. I thought I had it zeroed to a 5th style 2 screw receiver and floorplate. But I see three screws in the floorplate. And when I use the serial number search at the L.C. Smith serial number link. It won't give me a date if I use the F prefix in my serial number and if I leave the F out, it comes back as built in 1936. Which, I would have thought too early from what I've gathered here about receiver screws and chamber lengths.
I guess I'll go back through and reread everything again.

Thanks to all who've tried to help thusfar.

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Okay. I went back and reread second response twice, and the rest of them once and now the 1936 date seems to make more sense. I guess he chamber length can't really be used to date the gun.

My 2.75" A-Zoom snap caps drop right in.

The shop I bought her at did have a decent selection of the RST shells on the shelf. But with 2.75" chambers do I really need them?
Will a few rounds of Winchester Super-X #6 shot hunting loads hurt her? I do also have some Remington "Express Long Range" #6's at hand. If I dig around I'm sure I can come up with some other old ammo.

Any thoughts on care and feeding?

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The 3X5 card technique works very well to measure the chamber
http://www.lcsmith.org/faq/chamlgth.html

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In my recordings of serial numbers and the different characteristics of Hunter Arms box locks including ones made for other manufacturers, the latest serial number I have is F203868 and has a 2 screw receiver side and 2 screw floor plate. This is a 20 gauge made in 1941 and by now will have 2 3/4" chambers.

For your 16 gauge, if it is 1936 it would be early for 2 3/4" chambers. Also for what it is worth, my A Zoom 16 ga. snap caps (4)measure 2 1/4". I would recheck yours.

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Had 5 of them....odd action but nicely made guns....sold 2 of them.... a 16ga 1920 made one marked Keystone...and a 16ga 1936 Fulton marked...
Still have.. 12ga Royal Arms marked from 1920...Fulton marked 16ga made 1936 from the John Houchins estate....12ga Gladiator Tournament from 1918....


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Honestly never thought to measure the snap caps. Just assumed being a modern item, that they would be of modern dimensions.

Will do the index card method.

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Brokennock--Modern unfired 2 3/4" shells don't measure 2 3/4" either. That's the length of the fired hull . . . although even when fired, they're almost always just a bit short of 2 3/4".

Re dating the gun based on chamber length: Back before 2 3/4" became the standard length for 12-16-20ga guns, American makers didn't mark chamber length. I can't recall ever having seen an
American double marked anything shorter than 2 3/4". A good rule of thumb is to suspect that chambers have been lengthened on an American gun that's not marked 2 3/4" but has chambers that measure 2 3/4". That was standard practice in the gunsmithing community, as American ammo makers dropped the shorter length shells. The only way to know for sure is to access factory records and get a letter on your gun including factory specs from whomever has access to the information.

There were different proof standards for 2 3/4" guns vs those with shorter chambers. I'm guessing those Remington Express 6's are 1 1/8 oz loads. They're almost certainly somewhat hotter than the loads for which the gun was proofed. But we're also talking guns that were built pretty stout, and it's not likely you're going to do much damage to it if you shoot a few of those, on occasion, when you're hunting. If you're shooting a lot, sticking to 1 oz loads is probably a better idea. That being said, my first classic double was a pre-WWII Sauer 16ga, on which I had the chambers lengthened (before I knew better!) And I shot a pile of pheasants with that gun, using those Express 1 1/8 oz loads. The gun survived, but I'd probably be a bit more cautious today.

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