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You guys are scaring me. I think I will shim for now and investigate how to do a permanent fix after I learn more. .
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like brain surgery, shotgun rejoining should not be attempted by untrained, inexperienced amatuers...here is another interesting midway video on the subject... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EqfxRugPVw
Last edited by ed good; 12/15/16 12:02 PM.
keep it simple and keep it safe...
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Yep you guys have got me thinking. This old gun is actually pretty nice. The barrels have plenty of wall thickness. They are much better then I expected. I've measured them over and over again using both outside mics, a barrel bore gage a barrel wall thickness gage which I finally figured out how to use from reading here. all the measurements agree that the thinnest wall thickness is .0295. The engraving is still sharp, the screws haven't been buggered, it is very gracefully shaped and the interior of the action is really quite beautifully made. It's not a collectors gun as the checkering is about gone, the trigger guard engraving is really thin and it could use a new stock. I'm into it cheap, but looking at it I have come to believe it is too nice for an amateur like myself to bugger up. I think I will do a bit of practicing on old no value guns to see if I have any talent for this sort of thing and will probably end up going to a gunsmith.I really appreciate what I am learning from you guys. Thanks
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How else are you going to learn?
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on a gun such as this, i also advise a steel shim. i have soft soldered them on, using the lowest temp solder i had. but on the last one i used loc-tite 380 Black Max. it needs to be used in cases where the part is in compression, as is on a hook and pin situation.
get the best fitting shim you can, and then assert pressure to make the shim closely fit the hook. i have used dowels or steel rods roughly the size of the pin.
the Black Max REALLY (!!!) bonds metal when used properly. in my experience it is at least equal to, and i think a tad more, strong than Hi-Force 44 solder.
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How else are you going to learn? apprentus or pay to go to gunsmith school...
keep it simple and keep it safe...
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How else are you going to learn? apprentus or pay to go to gunsmith school... Is that how you learned to ruin shotgun receivers with an acetylene torch? What school teaches that? SRH
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I used the shim steel approach to tighten up a slightly off face gun with good results as well. I suspect it's fine for an occasional shooter. I bought a lifetime supply off eBay for about $20. eBay
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Have someone decent spray weld the hook. Cole Haugh in Indiana does this at relatively low cost...he has done 2-3 guns for me.
You can use shim stock and stick it to the hook with some of the Loctite compounds used for bearing surfaces. I think Loctite 680 is one of these. Check for the latest Loctite recommendations. It works, I have done this on two guns. These were .001 or .002 shims. .002 is a lot of play, I would be surprised if you actually have .007!
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Have someone decent spray weld the hook. Cole Haugh in Indiana does this at relatively low cost...he has done 2-3 guns for me.
You can use shim stock and stick it to the hook with some of the Loctite compounds used for bearing surfaces. I think Loctite 680 is one of these. Check for the latest Loctite recommendations. It works, I have done this on two guns. These were .001 or .002 shims. .002 is a lot of play, I would be surprised if you actually have .007! LC, do you have contact info for Cole Haugh? Thanks, SRH
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