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It has been my initial intention to embed this into the
Kalezkiana/Neuber post, but I have finally decided to put
it into a separate post.
I have returned yesterday from a pheasant shoot near the
Czech town of Hodonin. I go there now for 4 years, before
that Hungary, the last 2 drives with fast and high flying
birds, alltogether a paid but private arrangement.
I hunt since 51 years in Czech republic, Slovakia (before
one country Czechoslovakia )
What's new in these 51 years - REPEAT 51 YEARS - I have been
controlled for the first time by the police - in situ,
before the shooting started. As I arrived as first one
I had he first control.
Two police-ladies, all very correct, one speaking English,
I opened my 2 guncases, number of the guns checked, alco
test, all ok.
To be precise, there are a total of 5 documents to be
checked.
Is this worth any comment/post?
One may assume that all Austrian hunters in Czechia are
drunkards, who need at least half a bottle of pinot noir
to quiet their trembling trigger finger, but this if off
any reality.
So why then, all of a sudden , and now.

I accompanied my father during the Russian occupation
in the 1950's on his hunt, no control ....
The "Krassnaja armada" treated - after the invasion was
over - shotguns as a chose negligeable.

I observe as quoted in the headline a creeping Orwellian
infiltration , bureaucratisation, anti-gun, anti-hunt
mainstream backed up by hunting reps who behave as being
"inconvenient to live".
I got a Remington-autoloader hunting/gun license denial
end 1990's.Preceeded to it, a schoolboy shot his teacher
with a handgun of this father.
I got a denial of access to the proofrecords of the
Vienna proofhouse recently . It's all state/office secret.
Brussels has a proposal in petto to prohibit all
shotgun autoloader because Paris/Bataclan attack was
with AK47. I call this Bataclan-logic.
My guns on the European gunlicense are automatically
transfered/copied onto the central gun registration.
To be clear these are not AK47 nor AR15, just a bloody
old Purdey from 1902. Even it would have been inherited
from my great-grandfather , which is not the case, it
would be there.
And guess where the central server for this data base
is: You got it, it is in the finance ministry.
Since few weeks all our bank accounts are "public domain".
I have nothing to hide, but there is a feeling of creeping
Orwellian infiltration/transparency.
I have lived 5 years in France and had many collegues from the
Levante. One thing I have learned from these descendants of the
Phonicians is "A Levantine never lies, he tells you only
half of the truth".
What bothers me is this paid journaille which tells only
half of the truth, the anti-story.
Being pragmatic and solution oriented,
I have a proposal to counter this anti-gun/anti-hunting
"Evangelium" by finding high-profile/non-paid folks who
are sincere and honest to tell along this Levantine wisdom
the SECOND half of the truth.
Cynicism is the privilege of age,
so here comes my proposal.

Donald Dallas's great book on the definitive history of
Purdey's has on page 217 a Purdey label picture with
the appointments gun-&cartridge maker to the queen, gunmaker to the duke of Edinburgh and finally gun-&cartridge maker
to the Charlie prince. I assume that all of this is true and
appropriate.
Three high profile English people , real hunters, sincere
and not depending on any ad income wearing baseball
caps with the Purdey script on it.
What about a video-clip showing the Lisbeth-queen at famous
Warter Priory shoot with
3 dead cock-pheasants in the air, shot with a matched trio of
Purdeys, and the Charlie-prince acting as her
loader. This could be a long overdue update to the outdated
Lord Ripon stories.
The Edinburgh prince behind just observing, filming
and commanding her brace of ugly pet-dogs to retrieve
the fallen birds.
In pre-brexit times a family idyll of subtle English-Imperial nobleness.

When I worked in Paris I have been living in a western
suburb. When I told the name of the town/village to an
English gundealer he asked me if I had the privilege
to shoot with Francois Mitterand Le Grand. I have not
been aware that the former French president had a non-public shoot there.
So what about another high-profile this time French person,
Francois Le Grand, having 2 dead red-legged French partridges in the air at Marly-Le-Roi, all cleanly shot with a matched pair of genuine French Darne's and with his unimitable
French grandezza.

More south, this was a disaster. The European
northener politicians always tell that the southerners are
broke. Despite that the king of one of these coutries
went to an elephant shoot.
A PR disaster,not because he shot an elephant, but he
was accompanied by his mistress, and that in a catholic
country. And unbelievably for a king, he excused himself
to the public for having been accompanied.

Concerning another southern country, il magnifico SB,
has disappeared from the public as a "Werbetr�ger".
I am wondering if he did any dove shooting with his
Maroccan girlie there.

Now to Germany:
There is nothing known of alma mater AM.
And it's not recommendable, as it could be counter argument
of the advocatus diaboli at her beatification.
And German history is
disgusting, as I have seen/heard of German guns/rifles
at least 10-times as much as
could have been handled by this notorious "Reichsj�germeister"
with the famous green side-stripes on his trousers.

Now what remains for us commoners. We are all missing the
HUNTING-ASTERIXs who stand up and fight and fight and never give up ....

Weidmannsheil
DI Felix Neuberger

PS: Shame on me as I have forgotten my homecountry Austria.
Since half a year we have no president, problem is
no one is missing him.
Reputedly grandees of Austria's "Rotes Imperium" also
are hunting. Mafia like omerta. I am wondering of whom these grown up chaps are afraid.
There can be only one high-profile "Werbetr�ger" of an
anti-anti campaign , this is obviously our worldfamous
"Niki Nationale".
So his present headgear - a signal-red baseball cap with his
gambler-ad-message on it, stuff normally in use by beaters - has to be replaced by a proper outfit. This could be a reed-green hunting cap with the logo of "Burgenl�ndischer Landesjagdverband", complemented by my personal present to
him ,a bespoke Pannonian hunting suit by/from the local Croatian taylor. The tweed for it at his choice from the
K & K court supplier Jungmann & Neffe opposite the Vienna
Opera.
All of that the necessary outfit to show him
properly in a video clip when bagging his first speckle-belly
goose east of the Neusiedler-See.
I would borrow him fee-free for this adventure my vintage pigeon gun built by another
K & K court supplier, Johann Springer's Erben from Vienna.

felix,
Waidmannsdanke
Mike

In the spring of 1970, I went on a driven boar hunt in Bulgaria as a member of a German hunting party. I was the only American in the group. We flew into Sofia and breezed through customs shepherded by our Bulgarian host.

There was no inspection of weapons, no inquiry about licenses, no difficulty whatsoever. We were all herded into the airport bar, and the host asked what we would like to drink, beer or cognac. I am not much of a beer drinker, so I asked for cognac. To my surprise, I was handed a tumbler filled to the brim. We were then herded out onto the tarmac, where we were to board our plane for the flight to the hunting site. I saw why we had been fortified with liquor.

The plane was an ancient tail-dragger, a sort of Russian version of the DC-3. We boarded the plane, carrying guns and ammunition and luggage and seated ourselves and then were greeted by the smiling pilot, who marched past us up the slanting passageway to the cockpit, where he closed the door and locked himself in.

We flew to the hunting site near the Black Sea uneventfully and were escorted to the hunting accommodations, which consisted of a group of cabins obviously used by sea-side vacationers. The next morning we were taken by bus to the hunting site, accompanied by the beaters who were to conduct the drive, who made themselves noticeable on the bus by an overwhelming scent of garlic.

I was carrying my brand new ZKK 602 BRNO in .375 H&H, and was concerned about the reverse safety on it. I had been practicing on the running boar range at my local club in Germany, and thought I would be able to handle a shot, but I was concerned about remembering how to take the safety off.

I finally decided to go ahead and take the safety off beforehand, so as not to be confused when something appeared. Sure enough, when two Ueberlaeufer (yearlings) ran across my field of view, I threw the rifle to my shoulder and put the safety back on in the process. That was my only chance at Schwarzwild (wild boar) for the whole hunt.

I did make a successful running shot on a fox, which I gave to the beaters. They were overjoyed, since the government paid a bounty on foxes, which they could turn into beer.

At the end of the second day, my closest neighbor, an elderly Swiss gentleman, wounded a pig, and I offered to follow it up for him. I walked about fifty yards into the undergrowth, when it jumped up in front of me, and I executed the equivalent of a low house seven skeet shot, which put it down for the count.

One of the other hunters, a butcher by trade, came over and rolled up his sleeves. He proceeded to field dress the hog without getting so much as a drop of blood on his person. Quite impressive.

On the final day, we reversed the procedure with the Russian DC-3 and the Sofia airport, and soon found ourselves back in Germany. Never during the entire trip was my rifle examined or I questioned about a license or permit. As a Devisenbringer (hard currency carrier), I was exempt from the normal rules.

Creeping Orwellian infiltration 1.1 2.1 & manifesto 2.0 3.0 - WIP
Infiltration 2.1
We have finally a president elect. No, I am not speaking of DT and
his Slovenian beauty and his collections of mad dogs. No, I am
speaking of the president elect of Tu Felix Austria. We needed
3 turns. So finally he is here, Prof Dr Dr hc AvB, which tells
that at least he learned some trade. And the final confrontation
between him and his contender was quite simply a shabby emulation
of the wild-west show of DT versus HC.
There exists in zoology the term of metamorphosis, an discipline
applied in insect science.
This applies also for the ho.. politicus Austriacus
(The latin word for human being gets censored here..).
I understand AvB started as commie, then became a socialist,
then a greenie and in the election he was sold as an
"independant". In terms of colour i.e. dark-red,red,green
and finally grey (which by definition is "missing colour"),
Finally the United Austrian Political Kingdom has been
supporting him , so he won.
Immediately after the win he made a pitch and telling
he wants to be the president of all Austrian.
I am still waiting since 70 years for a president elect
who has the honesty and gut to tell the folks who did not
elect him "and those of you who did not elect me fu.. off".
But he seems to be a decent character. When looking on the
billboards near the big shopping mall south of Vienna on
this unshaved and un-botoxed face, one may get the idea
this is a Romanian clochard happily smiling because he
got an asylum-bed for the night.
Why and here in this forum a comment on this chap, quite
simply , when he was the head of the holy Austrian greenies,
he told to the world that rearing pheasants just to shoot
them is not ethical and he does not support it.
He is simply the incarnation of the supreme anti-apostle and now president of the state.
Hunter/emperor Franz Josef I will roll over in his
sarcophagus in the Kapuzinergruft when he realizes what
chap will take seat at his desk in Vienna's downtown palace
Hofburg 100 years after he had passed away.
Austria bags 65000 pheasants per year (assume half of this figure are reared and released birds ),
AND
rears,kills and eats 77 MILLION poultry (females only),
77 MILLION minus 50 of male poultry are immediately killed
because economically not justifiable and recycled
into the feeding/crop chain.
The minus 50 are the happy 50 males poultry who are allowed
to have a happy more 4 weeks than the females to live in the bio-active
ad campaign of the monopolistic retailer.
Obviously all of that is ethical.
The next official act of him will be on january 1,2018
when he wishes all Austrians a happy new year 2018.

...
Manifesto 3.0
..
With this basis there are ample possiblities to extend the
green empire by simple bio-dynamic warfare.
Here is a blueprint.
All the Austrian birds of prey are proteced, incl. the
absolute killer bird Rohrweihe
(lat. circus aeruginosis ), gliding 1-2 m
above ground and killing everything which moves.
What about a poacher in the Carpat mountains, not too far
from the Austrian border, for a small amount of Euro
he will catch a wolf-litter plus a dozen of adult
wolfes, if necessary put them under narcotics and export
those into Austria's
absolute wild area , the "Truppen�bungsplatz of Allensteig".
Then release them once awakened from the narcotics,
photographed by helpfully assisting organisations, proofing
there is a genuine indigenous/homeborn/homegrown wolf
population which is in need for a state-controlled
protection. And the Austrian TV will proudly have a clip-show
in its Universum/Geo on
Austria's newly returned once extinct animals.
A sensation by itself instead of the 365'th zebra kill
by a jumping lioness.
Now, what then:
The first animals to disappear from this Austrian
wilderness are the moufflons,
followed by red dear....
finally no animals to hunt, no need for hunters to go there...
Ultima ratio: No animals, no hunter
...
Manifesto 4.0
When the greenies entered the Viennese local government,
one of their first task has been to paint some
foothpaths in GREEN - no joke - but I believe they have ceased
this project now as it looked to much stalinistic.
I propose here a more intellectual approach
in adapting some Austrian literature.
Lets do some rephrasing:
First: The Austrian hymn has to be rephrased from
"Heimat grosser S�hne " to "Heimat grosser Gr�ne"
Second: The fairy tale "Rotk�ppchen und der Wolf"
will be rephrased to "Gr�nk�ppchen und der Wolf".
..
Tu Felix Austria
...

PS: There is always a need for a postscriptum. Few days ago ,by
pure chance, I got into the 5th drive of a hare shoot
in an area where I hunted 50 years ago.The "Jagdleiter" has been my bordboy in bygone days.
Their total bag
on this day has been 115 hares and 4 pheasants.
Their yearly bag is about 20 % of the bag we made
50 years ago. It is the agro-industrialisation and
use-of-chemistry which brought this decline.
What bothers me are these greenies incl their militant-
anti-muscle, a bunch of shabby hypocrites, who use
this economic development as "Trittbrettfahrer"
to profile themselves for an overpaid MP or other
political job.
Shame on them...

the greenies should all wear aluminum foil pointy anti-cyber warfare hats...because the Russians can't hack your brain if they can't find it....

Manifesto 5.0
We do not only have a president-elect but also a first-lady-elect.
He married his long-time mistress shortly before he told he will
nominate for the election.
A simple political calculus as Austria is a catholic country and
a marriage is an atout.
THE Austrian society highlight is the socalled OPERA-ball.
An event where all the A,B,C etc promis gather incl the
Z-promis, i.e. the anti-opera-ball-gang on the street demonstrating against the event.
...
1st issue to resolve
There is an interview of this couple-elect by a soft-rinsed
leftie-journalist in which she admitted that she did also
demonstrate against this opera ball in her younger years.
So the next opera ball she will join her husband into the
IMPERIAL box INSIDE the opera building and look upon all
the A,B,C etc promis dancing below her.
Her husband has a retired former president of the supreme
court as legal consultant.
I am wondering what this chap or the maitre-de-protocol
will recommend her.
Will she take a bottle of state-supplied champagne and
descend to her former gang-cofighters on the street and
have a drink with them or will the gang join the first
couple in the imperial box inside the building for a
drink there ?
What career jump from a Z-level promi to an A-level promi
in this country.
...
2nd issue to resolve
The first couple has as summer residence the former imperial
hunting - repeat IMPERIAL HUNTING - mansion in the province of Styria.
Now, will then her former Z-gang reemerge in this Styrian
place and will she celebrate with them by dancing the
greenie-goblin dance or will in stalinistic style the
all-mighty special police force Cobra hermetically barricade the spot to ensure their unspoiled vacation.
How many milli-seconds will this new fake-imperial couple
need to remove any hunting sign of this imperial vintage
hunting place...

What unsurpassable and absolute perversion in Tu Felix Austria ...

Felix, perhaps you will be saved by their innate hypocrisy.

Much like their attendance at the ball, perhaps a few days at the Imperial hunting lodge will allow them to see the error of their ways, find they enjoy hunting and quietly drop their opposition to it.

But I doubt it. Good luck!

My sympathies. It apppears that Austria is now governed by the Clintons...

Considering the opponent and the quite grotesque process of the election, I feel things could be worse.

Do you know where the small mining town named Lucky-- is in NW Czechoslavia?

On my street map for Czechia and Slovakia I found two, both in eastern Slovakia:
- one east of Michalovce on the road to Ukrainian town of Uzgorod
- another one on small sidestreet between Martin and Liptovsky Mikulas
(this one also shown in a Polish google-hit)
No town/village on my map in Czechia, but
according Google "Lucky vrch" ( translates to Lucky mountain)
at 56982 Oldris (few miles west of Moravska Trebova) /
(another Polish google hit shows this under neighbouring
village name...)
There may be more as not all the small villages appear
on the street maps....
Cheers
Felix

Many thanks- my late Paternal Grandparents came from Lucky Mountain, and in 1911, he was a mining engineer, he- Jacob, and my Maternal Grandmother Marta, left for America, came through Ellis Island, and eventually settled in Ohio. They both died within 6 months of another in 1917, from the outbreak of influenza, aka- "The Spanish Flu" that spread like wildfire across the Midwest during the time America was entering "The War To End All Wars."

My late father, and his two sisters, were all placed into the orphanage program with the Catholic Church, and were all eventually placed into foster homes. The people who took in my father were Christian, but not Roman Catholic, and they never formally adopted him, he was a ward, and when he was 21, he dropped the "Ski" from Muranski, and changed the "Muran" to Morin.

He had lost track of his sisters, but in the 1980's, when living in Florida, he found, through the Church, his one living sister Mildred Bartko- in Masaracktown, name for the Czech General, who with the Polish General, Pilsudski, aided Washington and others in our Revolutionary War. Mildred could speak, read and write; English, German and Polish--

Thank you for helping me trace my ethnic roots back to Eastern Europe. I can only wonder what that area in the Czech Republic would be today, had we not had to endure the tragedy of two World Wars that ravaged almost all of Europe, plus North Africa, Greece, and England.

I have been an avid student of World History since I was a lad, and at age 75, my thirst for details and facts has not diminished one iota..

Will send you a PM as it may not be appropriate to
discuss here history/ancestral research agenda
Kind regards
Felix

The last thing I would have thought that my "rage-citizen" post
would contribute are ancestry questions.
To anticipate any more open questions of folks across the pond re Central-European ancestry-line
or if you are faced with ancestry-questions
by your kids and you have no answer - like I did not have - here is a summary
of basic facts:
- The catholic church decided in a concilium that every
parish has to document birth,marriage, death, visitations
(i.e. catholic-head counting by the local bishop):
These documents go back 300-350 years (if not destroyed
during the wars) .
The first ca. 200 years in Latin, the last in local language
i.e. German, Hungarian, Czech ....
None of these are google-ized, nor digitized , just
handwritten folio-volumes stored in local bishop archives
or community sites.
Research therein is not a question of an e-mail to this
site or an extended weekend trip to Vienna/Prague/Budapest...
I personally needed for my paternal side 3 months IN SITU,
with a basic understanding of Latin etc..and got back to
1650. There are further documents ( in my case) in the
archives of the former landowning aristo clan going back
to ca 1500, but I decided not to pursue this trail anymore
- Some districs have very comprehensive Topographic
books with all the details (but not ancestry lines)
the local admin and their experts could gather starting
from neolithicum to yesterday...
- If your grandpa was killed in WW I on the eastern front,
there is a Polish !!! internet webpage (name/details forgotten)
which documents the 300+ WW I graveyards still existing/
known, some even with photos (but no detailed soldier names...)
Wish you good luck if you want to trace back you roots..
Happy new year
Felix

Thank you Felix- for the insight into the historical lineage lines and the control of the Roman Catholic Church in 17th Century Europe- and from that point onward through the ages. As my Paternal grandfather Jacob Murinski died in Ohio in June 1917 from the influenza outbreak that swept through the American heartland back then, a search of the WW1 records on the Polish Army side would not be fruitful. My younger sister did a geneology search on our family about 15 years ago- cost her quite a sum of money. My late father died in Florida unexpectedly in Sept 1986, but the blessing was that he had met and spent time with his sister, Mildred Bartko, living near Venice Fl. in Masarack Town, adjacent to Venice FL. Family histories from our European roots are fascinating, a tapestry of marriages, divorces, deaths and births- Many thanks again, my friend.

To RwFox
- PM is not accepted with your id
- Have sent you yesterday e-mail to address as quoted
in your profile
Cheers
Felix

To Rwfox
The PM of your profile does not allow responses.
E-mail sent to the address of your profile is delayed/
not working
Please can you send me a PM re your e-mail-address.
I have some more info on the origin of your ancestral name
Cheers
Felix

To "Run with the Fox"
- PM to you not possible
- My e-mail to the address quoted in your profile repeatedly delayed/not accepted
So here are some more details:

In your post of 12/30 you tell that your name is derived from
Muranski -> Muran -> Morin.
Now:
There exist in eastern Slovakia (southeast of Lower Tatry mountains):
...
Muran (town/village)
Muransky hrad (=castle)
Muranska huta (town/village)
Muranska zdychava (village)
Muranska narodni park (national park)
....
Many names in central Europe are derived from the
towns/villages the ancestors lived in and just the Slavic or
German ending added...
My theory:
Your ancestor originated from the area of Muran ...added
the Slavic ending of "sky".
He moved from the mountaneous/rural east Slovakian
region to the industrialized Czech region for jobreasons...
My hint to you:
"Go east man, go east and locate your roots.." and
add to your hobbies guns from Nowotny,Faukner, Morgenstern,
Holecek and obviously also Lebeda ...
Kind regards
Felix Neuberger

Indeed- I just guessed at the spelling- Muransky-Muranski-I will share all your research with my sister, who lives in Germantown MD. She was always more interested in our "roots" from Slavic Europe pre-WW1-- Also true, I believe, that especially in Germany and Austria, a surname could also be the same word used to describe or denote a trade or profession-- Herr Meuller- Mr. Miller-- a man who worked at a mill. Herr Zimmerman- a man who worked as a carpenter- Herr Baumann- A man who worked on or with trees- a tree surgeon--

Many thanks for all your fine research, for an e-mail "stranger" who lives in the American Midwest. I shall go to my "profile" on this BBS and see if I can figure out what is causing the apparent blocking of messages to me, at the listed e-address therein- Viel Gluck, mein Fruend.-

Do not forget Tichy & Bittner as well as F�ckert.

Cheers,

Raimey
rse

Obsolescence of Manifesto 3.0 /blueprint - post 12/20/16
I have before me the march issue of the regional hunting
magazine and it tells me that my blueprint has been
outdated already when I wrote it and the reality is
by far more advanced.
The front page of this magazine features a mufflon ram
with the sentence "In danger ?", followed by
the editorial of the regional hunting Kapo and inside
the magazine a long article on the wolf.
In short, already in 2015 wolves have been seen in
this Austrian wilderness of the army-training-area
(Truppen�bungsplatz) Allentsteig, with a rather strange
behaviour, not shy, apparently familiar to encounters
with human beings, a new subspecies of the genus "lupus" called in latin "lupus domesticus Austriacus".
These seem to be reared and released animals...
Up to now none of the holy animal protection folks
declared ownership for this clandestine project.
This area had a yearly mufflon bag of 150-200 , the bag
in 2016 has been 20, no lambs at all. With a simple
extrapolation this animal will be gone within 2 more years.
The Kapo announced a study group to discuss all implications
of this new situation.
The article inside tells us that the mufflon is a
non-indigenous animal - it came 200+ years from Corsica,
since 50 years in this wilderness area, however
the wolf has always been indigenous to Austria.
What shameful defensive mess....

...Here is a short update from old Europe and the "first-world problems" it is creating/resolving...
A. Austro wolf / Source: august issue of the regional hunting
magazine
The 2017-wolf-litter counts 6 nice little "Sch�ferhund"-alike
non-herbivorous animals, increasing the wolf-population in
this army-training-area to a total of 11.
(The vociferous WWF told it's not him who introduced them
there...)
Their daily bag is 1,5 red dear calves , makes 550 per year or its meat equivalent of grown up red dear stags/hinds.
There is already a court case between the district authority
and the army ecologists how to count this wolf-bag against
the agreed upon hunting quota....

B. Regional hunting law amendments
The eastern province got now an amendment and it
sounds as if other neighbouring provinces are to follow domino-like.
(NB:This province has a reddie/bluie government).
The core of the amendment is that "Gatter-Jagden" (i.e. game kept in enclosures surrounded by a fence or a wall) will have to cease by 2023, up to then stringent controls.
The largest such Gatter/Tiergarten in Europe - about 1200 ha -
lies in this province.
Founded by the head of an aristo-clan in 1756 - he was
"Palatin" /i.e. emperor-deputy there .
The last head of this family died without issue.
The control of the Austrian properties belonging to
this family went to the nephew of the late princess, she was a former Budapest opera ballerina.( All of the Hungarian estates/
properties were confiscated/expropriated by the commies in 1948.)
This chap is a Hungaro-Swiss banker and immediately started to
rejunenate the vast economic empire ...
AND kicked out the local government from their feudal
residence in the princely palace.
An insider told me that the new law amendment is simply
the retaliation of the regional governor - by learned
profession a gymteacher in basic school - for being
kicked out from the feudal palace office residence.
A warm wellcome to this Hungarian Asterix and I am
keen to see their next round ....
Felix Neuberger

Austria's greenies are gone. What started 30+ years ago as a
broad oecology-movement ended in a disaster.
They did not get the min 4 % in the oct 15 election.
DE MORTUIS NIHIL NISI BENE.
R.I.P.
No harbouring anymore for the anti-hunt/gun apostles/fraternity.
Felix Neuberger

TU, FELIX AUSTRIA...! I wished, we had the same good news in Germany! Unfortunately we haven't and will get the usual trouble of these selfnamed frineds of nature...

Gunwolf

Hmm, thought I had posted this two days ago. Oh well....was rather intenet challenged while afield chasing ruffed grouse.

Well done Felix. Congratulations to Austria. The Greens here in Canada are a ridiculous, policy contradictory amalgamation of know-nothings with an anti-Semitic streak a mile wide. Luckily they have gained little traction so far.

The brexit-country gave to the world long time ago
Isaac Newton
James Cook
Charles Darwin
James Watt
Joseph Whitworth
Frederic Beesley
John Robertson
and many more of world-class explorers,scientists,engineers.
This once glorious country is blessed now with
HER-IMPERIAL-MAJESTY hunt-hiding Lisbeth-queen
and HIS-IMPERIAL-HIGHNESS hunt-hiding Charlie-prince.
Both featuring in the paradise-papers.
Not amusing, rather disgusting from these sacrosanct IMPERIALS.
Felix Neuberger

A Non-Orwellian story..
There is a book by Louis Graf Karolyi "Waidwerk ohne gleichen",
which translates to "Hunting unequalled", 4th issue by 1992,
Isbn 3-925456-21-X.
The internet platform zvab.com (abbreviation for "Zentral-
Verzeichnis antiker B�cher, i.e. central inventory of antique
books) has about a dozen on offer for a couple of Euro.
Page 124 ff of this book has the story on "Small game in Totmegyer".
Totmegyer is the Hungarian name for a small town in todays
Slovakia, the Slovakian name is Palarikovo. Its about 55 km
east of the Slovakian capial of Bratislava.
What makes this so special ?
Totmegyer has been THE Central Enropean hotspot for small
game between the wars, coveted by all the top-shots of this
period to get an invitation there. It has been only wild
game, no reared ones.
It did not happen by accident as a gift of nature, it was
all built up by this count Karolyi, the scion of an old Hungarian aristo clan.
He inherited from his father an estate with ca 11000 ha and
rented an area of same size from the neighbouring local farmers
for hunting rights.
He invested and gradually implemented a very well managed
hunting enterprise, with about 2 dozens of gamekeepers, with
a bonus/premium system for them, ensuring them a lifelong
employment.
What amazes me is the figure of animals-of-prey "bagged"
by his gamekeepers, all well documented.
This could be up to 10000 per year, of which poaching dogs
alone would make 800 with a high premium paid for them.
The total figure for these animals-of-prey for the years
1930 to 1937 has been 56165, for each and every one a
premium paid.
The total bag of "Nutzwild"(harvest-animals / hares,pheasants,
partridges) for the same period has been 226571, the
yearly bag on average 20000 to 37000.
The gamekeepers had a bonus on the harvest-animals.
So the ratio of 1 prey-animal to 4 harvest-animals.
When looking on the list of prey-animals you will understand
why I called this a non-Orwellian story. Its all protected
animals today , even a poaching dog killed outside any
village-area is a matter of hysteric media coverage
nowadays.
Is has not been a economical win/win situation, in good
years the income equalled the expenses,after strong
winters no hunting at all.
It all came to an end when he fled the country end of WW II
and - if I remember well an English "Shooting times" article -
finally settled in UK and passed away there in 1965.
Felix Neuberger

Felix,

first I wish you a happy new year! My wife donated a book to me on Christmas written by Klaus Neuberger: "Tolle Zeiten & Grosse J�ger" Volume I, there are Vol. II and three as well. Is it a relative of you...?

Thanks and kind regards,
Gunwolf

To Gunwolf,
thanks for the wishes and a "Prosit 2018" to you and yours.
Klaus Neuberger is not a relative of mine (at least not in the ancestral line back to 1803).
He is a man of the PR/AD business side of life, have hunted with him in Hungary, meet him occasionaly in the nearby shooting club,
he knows god and the world of the Austro-Hunting-scene and
undertook this gigantic exercise to document this unkwnown part
of Austria's life in a three-part-trilogy.
He deserves all the merits for his undertaking.
In contrast to my Asterix-cynicism he uses a very kind and subtle language.
Weidmannsheil
Felix Neuberger

Thanks Felix!

I really love this book and I hope, my wife will present me the other two... ;-)
Here a time was described which has finally passed. I remember myself the last breathes some 45 years ago and it's a great pleasure to get more and deeper informations about those time of happy and plenty hunting.

By the way, I also like your "Asterix-cynicism", because I'm not free of it myself.. :-))

Waidmannsheil,
Wolfgang

...
"To everything there is a season,
and a time to every purpose under heaven:
a time to get, and a time to lose;
a time to keep, and a time to cast away .."
Copyright Old Testament
I had 2 outings in the eastern province of Austria, once a haven
for small game, as a guest, in both places just wild,non-reared
small game only. One of these 2 shoots a world-class pigeon
shoot in the 1990's and the early 200x's.
Today: It has been a walk with a gun in the hand, not worthwile
to be there.
...
At one of the 1990's pigeon outings then there has been a new
guest, who told us that he has taken lessons with the
Austrian parcours champion, thinking this would enable him
to "plough with the goat".
Within half an hour he became very humble and increasingly
nervous as he had bagged one bird to 15 shots.
...
About at the same time as my 2 outings an e-mail by the
deputy regional hunting kapo complaining about the catastrophic
low levels of small game.
I answered its you who is responsible for that mess, no answer.
What does not cease to amaze me is this obsessive, religious
indoctrination of the antis,
politicians who listen to them together with
defensive and teethless hunting reps to recreate
a pseudo-wilderness in an overpopulated,agro-industrialised
and predator-protected country.
..
After 56 years of continued Austrian hunting licenses I have
decided to discontinue and I told this so to the hunting rep.
I will just take the one from Czechia, in hunting terms a
very pragmatic country. They abandoned steel-shot for
water-fowl , as they found out it is "Aasj�gerei", the
meat due to the rusting steel-pellets within short not edible
and finally they dont have white-headed eagles feeding
on lead-poisoned water-fowl.
....
And I have an invitation to a duck shoot in Pakistan for
october. The invitation is from a wealthy clan-chief to his private estate in the Indus-valley. I had the pleasure to
get to know him in Vienna. He even asked me if he should send
me the ticket. What a man.
....
With a drama in the family and me turning 80 within few days
I have come to realize there may be not only a last
hunting season but also that "every day is a precious one".
As the kids dont hunt it is time to return things to the
market.The things are called sidelock-ejector, the
embodiment of beauty, craftmanship and functional longevity,
which I had the pleasure to handle and forward as
custodian to someone for further pleasure and use.
My late friend Dr.HW in a similar depressive situation
told that he wants the barrels of his pair of Holland
selfopeners - at the moment once more on the market -
as kandlestick, the nr. 1 right to the coffin and the nr.2
left of it.
Its time to cease with the lamento, the complacent cynicism
and switch out with the rhyming sentence
"Eat and drink its later than you think" or more
appropriately
"Hunt and drink its later than you think".

Weidmannsheit
DI. Felix Neuberger

..Die Kugel und der Rubel rollt...
In a previous post I said RIP to the bygone greenies and more
recently its time to cease with my cynicism.
But life goes on and news continue to appear, so I will comment
on recent developments in a dry manner.
The young greenie who revolted intifada-like had been sacked
by the greenie-establishment. So for the last election she
joined the commie-party ( yes, this still exists) but without
any chance for a MP job.
So she has to return to the hotel-mamma, the mamma herself
a greenie MP in a regional parliament.
A greenie-silverback has been eliminated in a democratic
pre-election for a sure MP-seat, so he left the party, founded
a name-list-party (bearing his name) and succeeded to be
elected.
But he seems to be a rogue when drunk so he fell prey to the
me-too wave which flooded also across the Austrian border.
He did not take the seat in the parliament ( for the time being).
The head of the greenies, by profession a lady-lawyer,
resigned before the last election. She had vanished then
for nearly a year and has reemerged now.She got an exec job
in the gambling concern, in greenie terms the evil-empire.
As the photo of her job announcement tells she is under
medical treatment, I will refrain from any further comment,
just say "Die Kugel rollt".
Our previous finance-ministre, by learned profession a
furniture-discounter and hobby-winemaker,
hardly in office ,needed 3 milliseconds to increase the
asset taxes by 20% despite being from the blackie-party.
He reemerged now,on the photo the contrary of a chap under
medical treatment, telling to the world that he got a
consultant job at the Russian gas utility, that means
he is on the payroll of Wladimir Wladimirowitch P.,
in short "Der Rubel rollt".
A former PM had an underdog job in the workers-chamber
before becoming politician. During his time he made the
fatal mistake to neglect the leftie-Praetorianer-Garde,
i.e. Trade Unionists.
He is now lobbyist/consultant to/into a former soviet republic,
the press told how many millions he is making.
In short "Der Rubel rollt".
Or lets take a look to our beloved teutonic neighbours.
Their former PM , the gregarious G.Sch., a personal friend
of Wladimir Wladimirowitsch P. has also a job in a Russian
enterprise. In short "Der Rubel rollt".
One can not expect that all these chaps will become
"Bettelm�nche in der grauen Kutte" once their political
jobs are lost.
What comes to my mind is this sermo of a Russian
bizman/mafioso(?):
"Show me the westerner whom I can not buy"!
Simple answer:
THE POPE
AMEN
..
FN
..
Postscriptum: How to explain to the Polish apple-farmer
that he can not export his apples to Russia due to the
embargo and all these chaps can provide their services
to the kingdom of the neo-czar.

Remain ever stalwart & always keep your pencil sharp there Felix & Happy Easter to you & yours.

Cheers,

Raimey
rse

... Und der Rubel rollt und h�rt nicht auf zu rollen....
Dr. W. Sch. , narrowlipped, with Napoleonic size and self-esteem,
tricky and versatility/worldchampion emerged now- he is a polit-retiree-
and told to the world that he is on the payroll of
Wladimir-Wladimirowitsch-P.
He has been PM of a short-lived blackie/bluie (neo-liberal) government in
the 200x's. His blackie party made only the 3.place in the election
and despite this loss he managed to become the PM.
I have not yet seen anyone who could emulate him in such
endeavour.
He emerged now like phoenix from the neo-liberal ashes.
Why ashes ?
One needs just to read the non-fake-press.
One from his co's/buddies jailed, another to enter jail
in may, another one with GPS-controlled house-arrest
(no woodcock nor roebuck season this year),
a couple of others at court to proove they did not
take part in multiple/monstrous kickback cases ....
As this develops into a non-ending OT-story
I will conclude with 2 sermos.
Sermo No.1 from the Austrian emperor FJ I.
(this is the Habsburg-chap who declared war onto Serbia,
which triggered WW I, and not only his "god-given"
empire got lost but also all their estates/fortunes,
incl. the war-bonds of my maternal ancestors.)
A man for a minister-job has been proposed to him.
His question: "Hat er was ?"
Why your majesty is asking ?
His answer: "Wenn er was hat braucht er nicht zu stehlen".
Sermo No.2 from a taxi-driver on one of my last
business-trips from the hotel in Prague to the airport
in the late 1990's.
My question: "Wie lebt es sich nun in der Demokratie".
His price-less Schwejkiad answer.
"No schauen Sie, die Kommunisten haben 40 Jahre lang
regiert und haben gestohlen, jetzt regieren sie nur
4 Jahre, die stehlen 10 mal so viel wie die Kommunisten."
...
Weidmannsheil und Lovu zdar
...
FN
...

Here is an update from old Europe on Austria's 1st world problem,
the re-introduction of the wolf.
It is gaining continous momentum.
As predicted the mufflon in the state-owned army-training area
"Allentsteig" is gone
- So what -
The next possible prey there would/could be the red-deer calf.
- So what -
But the wolf is an intelligent animal and found out that there is
an easy-prey-animal in the neigbourhood - private not-state-owned land - which does not need to be chased down,
the sheep.
Fences are not an obstacle for this predator.
So from multiple press sources, 31 sheep killed and message
from today in the boulevard the last sheep of one of these
sheep farmers is gone.
- So no longer "So what"
Even the leftie state TV could no longer ignore it.
The local authorities had to react- "Es hat alles seinen
b�rokratischen Gang" - and issued an order to all the
"Jagdleiter" in the 2 affected districts allowing/advising
them to use "Vergr�mungsmassnahmen" versus this
EU-protected animal. They are allowed/advised to shoot into
the air or use rubber-pellets.
If this does not help then there would be a research-project
to identify the bad-killer-wolfes.
..
I am wondering how long it will take till an outrageous
asterix of a sheep-farmer/hunter will be put into court
because it turned out that he did not stick to the old
triple-S-poacher rule ("Sehen/Schiessen/Silentium")
and misloaded his double-barreled-shotgun with buckshot
instead of the free-rubber-load.
As usual in life its always games people play.
So one should not wonder that a chap from one of these holy
animal protection/diversity communities told to the world that
its the sheep farmers who have to take care of the
protection of their animals.
..
Weidmannsheil
FN
..

Felix, you have a very clear view on what you write. In Belgium we also have now again wolfs and as you can think they are also protected like in Austria. I am very curious to se what happend in a near future.
Cheers, continue writing, I read them all, Marc.

Over here, I had a discussion with a Game Warden about the NY DEC claim that there are no mountain lions in NY. So, i said if there are none, if I shoot one, it's only a imaginary animal. NO<NO<NO! We call it shoot, shovel, and shut up....
maybe auf Deutch, it's shiessen, gruben und halt's mal???

Yes:Schie�en, graben und Maul halten!!!

Gunwolf

I just stumbled upon this thread, read it, and became very thirsty for a strong beer. Cheers, all

..Finally, Thanks-to-God, the last blank/unexplored/unknown
area/spot in Austria's Orwellian landscape is going to be
explored/closed within short.
What is that ?
The up-to-now unregistered vintage shotguns have to be
registered , i.e. the present group D (shotguns) will
vanish and will be treated like rifles (group C).
"Registrierung Flinten-Altbestand".
We are told that this is in line with
"EU-Waffenrichtlinie" ex Brussels.
....
At the invasion of the Russian army in april 1945 all
weapons were confiscated,piled with others, burnt
and the remaining iron dumped into the nearby trench.
This happened also to the shotguns of my father, who
has been still at war when the Russian army entered
my parental village.
But once the invasion was over, shotguns were free:
REPEAT: SHOTGUNS UNDER RUSSIAN OCCUPATION FROM 1945
TO 1955 WERE FREE, NO REGISTRATION, NO CONFISCATION,
NO LOOTING, NO :"DAWAJ TOWARISCH TWOJU PUSCHKU".
Once the game-depleted fields from war-time recovered,
my father bought a rather simple "Hammerless" from
Just/Ferlach,16/65,non-ejector,in post-WW II-quality.
He then hunted with it, sometimes even along Russian
soldiers, who had gentleman-like behaviour.
I started to hunt with it, hunted with it till I fell
prey to the "London-Best" madness, and still have this
gun.
Market-value: One "Erinnerungs-Euro".
So after 70 years I have to REGISTER it, the RUSSIANS
did not care about it, the EU does.
There is also my "Russian " Purdey, ex Russian count
A.A.Bioncourt, built 1889, a jewel of English
shotgun-iana. He had donated the other 598 weapons he
owned to a Moscow museum.
Also this needs to be registered.
...
The Austrian authorities play on "transparency", we do
what EU is telling us to do.
Who is this "EU" in Brussels ?
When I look on these folks who represent there Austria, these
are not the "Best-of-the-breed" of politicians.
Rather from 3rd-tier, who got their "Verpflegungsjob"
in Brussels.
To show/proof their existence they invent pseudo/dummy
exercises like this vintage-gun-registration.
Its also these EU folks in Brussels who messed it up
in the relationship with the Brits, leading to the
Brexit-votum and its final end, the Brexit.
They simply mismanaged it, it's their political "Supergau",
no sensorium for "Live-and-let-live".
(And it has not been the personal feud between the two
Eton-cowboys, the then-PM Cameron and his
opponent ,the Want-to-be-PM Johnson, this is rather a simplified tabloid-merry-tale).
I have full sympathy for the British buccaneers for their
Brexit, for not wanting to be ruled by this sclerotic
and incompetent Brussels-gang. I regret that they leave..
..
I understand that the single country which will not
implement this registration stupidity is - how can it
be otherwise - our Schwejkiad neighbours from Czechia.
In their honour I close with their hunt-greetings
Lovu zdar
..Felix Neuberger..

Postscriptum 1:
Europe's summa-cum-laude-reddie country is Sweden.
They have the most stringent gunlaw.
Despite that, their PM O. Palme has been shot in
open street in 1886, till today not known by whom and why .

Postscriptum 2:
The overall documentation of gun-ownership then opens
the possibility for a "Guni-Leak" and/or state-owned
"Matched-pair" facility.
Both versions could operate on a service-fee bases,
another creation of state-revenue and public-sector-jobs.

Postscriptum 3:
Finally, lets be positive, pragmatic and look at the
chances/opportunities lying ahead of us.
Changes like that always flush/wash up to the market
up to now hidden guns.
Springer's Erben with their auction will wellcome this
development.
So may be in 50 years, when one of my grandsons,
following my hunting tracks, bags his first speckle-belly
goose in the Hortobagy marches in Hungary and being
asked:
"Which gun did you use today", his answer could well be:
"Its the vintage Purdey, which my grandfather has bought when
Europe implemented the Orwellian shotgun control".
..
Amen

I thought that this thread will quiesce/fade away over time due
to missing news, but I have been wrong, as news continue
to appear.
So here is an update from Old Europe, as per Austro boulevard
july 18, 2019.
Wladimir Wladimirowitsch P. has added another Austrian ex-PM
on his payroll, in addition to the existing 6 heads working
for him or his former co's.
This time its Dr. CK, unlucky short term Austrian reddie
PM, a slimfit cowboy, pizza messenger to show he is not a
"Mittelstands-Fresser" but a "Mittelstands-Protektor",
riding greenie-like a bicycle to/from his office - the
rumour that behind the corner his chaffeur-driven 8-cyl
limuosine has been waiting could not be disqualified as a
fake-story.
To be sure, these 6+1 chaps are not on a Hartz4-level,
and it is clear that everybody needs to make some
money for living.
The accompanying gloss in the newspaper referred to this
employment with the closing comment ex B.Brecht
"Erst kommt das Fressen, dann kommt die Moral".
.....
But Wladimir is a smart guy, so to underline his benevolence
and as part of his "Charm-Offensive" he got an audience/visit
at the pope - in Rome.
....
Europe has now a Mrs. Europe , U. von der L., former
German secretary of defence, already affirming EU's strict
stance on the embargo vs. Russia.
I am wondering if Wladimir P., as part of his
"Charm-Offensive" will invite her to a catch-and-release
salmon fishing trip to the Ponoi river in Siberia.
As he is fluent in German from his previous time
as Kgb-officer in East Germany, they will not need
a translator.
May be such a personal tete-a-tete in the fresh waters
of the Kola peninsula will finally help the Polish
apple farmers once more to deliver their fruits
to Russia instead of dumping those or eroding the plants
or having to leave "Polnische Heimaterde" because the banks
have cancelled the credit-contracts and their estates
have been sold-off.
..
Felix Montenuovo

"Jagd vorbei" in �sterreich
After 56 years of continously holding an Austrian hunting
license I have ceased to continue.
It does not make sense/has no merit to hold one for a bird
hunter.
As a sympton, the Jagdleiter of an area I hunted in the
1960's - he was then my birdboy - told me that since more
than 20 years no partridge hunting anymore there due to the
number of coveys below critical mass to justify hunting.
Even the state TV told recently that partridge population
in Austria is down 84%.
Who takes responsibility for this downturn ?
No one.
Who have been the grave driggers ?
Its not the structure change in the agro sector, there has been
more than one grave-digger responsible for this
development.
I will not point with the finger, as it would deviate
into the polit-/apparatschik-realm which is not for
this forum.
....
But LIFE GOES ON and what is at hand for a birdhunter now.
Its simple, GO EAST MAN GO EAST.
Its the former commie-countries of Eastern Europe,
Czechia and Hungary.
In the polit-/diplo-speak of leftie Europe the right-
populist countries of the East.
...
I have been to Hungary once more recently, holding now
a Hungarian hunting license ONLY.
Its a combination of walkup and driven, this time also
partridges beside pheasants.
No lunatic and cackling antis there invading a shoot to
disturb it, organized ok, but without military-alike
tight setup, no pseudo-feudal event with white linen
covered table with Herend porcelain, no champagne on ice,
nor a grand cru bottle of red Egri Bikaver, nor a bottle
of sweet Tokaj.
Western Hautevolee would coin it as a "Bauernjagd".
What has been the highlight of this hunt ?
Rather surprisingly a brace of Magyar Viszly pointing dogs.
This is THE race of Hungarian hunting dogs, there are
so many of them.
I needed some time to realize that I have been witness
of a worldclass brace of these dogs .
The young Hungarian holder spoke some English. It turned
out he is a professional dog trainer.
It has been a pleasure to see one these dogs to go on point,
then "freezing" on the spot, the second to back it up.
Only on command to move forward and flush the bird(s).
...
Underestimated, despite a sunny day, it can be very cold
in the open puszta plains, accentuated by a strong wind.
Bespoke jackets allowing to move freely are fine,
thermo clothes are the choice of the day there.
My favourite quarry is the pheasant-hen, smaller and
faster than the cock, coming with the wind 30m high
the ultimate challenge for a no-miss drive.
For some not-yet identified reasons I started in this
and the preceeding outing with a double-miss.
But I recovered fast from this awful beginning.
In the 3rd drive with no-miss.
In both outings followed then a typical Hungarian
curiosity by the Jagdleiter, approaching me and asking
what I am shooting with and if he can look at/handle
my gun, a 12-bore with 2,83 kg.
In both cases the face of the viewer becoming bright
like that of a child before the christmas tree.
The first one offering me a 3-year free hunt in his
"Revier" in exchange for the gun, the second one asking
how long I have the gun and where to buy/get such one.
....
"�dv a vadasznak" in Magyarorszag
...
FN

Always interesting. Thanks for the update Felix.