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That is terrible and prices will go up,Bobby

King, what you're seeing does not change how the market works. It is not subject to our whims or interpretations. Your views are short term, and remember I said "eventually". The market WILL fill a need, short term or long.

SRH

King, your little guy is stepping in and filling a need, or at least a want. Your Canadian biggies can't or won't compete with them. I doubt your little shop could go head to head with a big corporate clear cutter, but for the smaller market item like your shotgun, they probably have more business flexibility and less layers of administrative sponging up of the profit.

Maybe, if you have the gun you want, at a better price than elsewhere, your misery has decreased. I think your big corps are just bureaucrats that are more adept at covering averages, and you have to live with yourself when you realize you're supporting the true capitalist.

I dunno, craig. I haven't seen evidence of that with our good neighbour on the other side of the world's longest undefended border i.e too big to fail and to hell with home with more money to be made overseas.

The real loser's in this will probably be the good people of Sidney Nebraska & the surrounding area.

One of the first things that will happen will be the merging and streamlining of the corporate operations. Sidney is the corporate headquarters of Cabela's. It is a small town of approximately 5000, 2000 of those are somehow connected to Cabela's for their livelihood. If Bass Pro moves the corporate offices out of Sidney the tax base will feel the effects along with the schools & home values.

I've been lead to believe what BP was really after was the bank Cabela's owned that their credit cards were issued out of. This alone had tremendous assets. The real money in this business is in the credit cards and clothing. Not guns & ammo.

Think about what you see when you walk into a Cabela's store. Front & center is a kiosk hawking their credit card. Followed by two thirds of the store filled with cloths racks & shelves which you have to walk through to get to the back corners where the guns, ammo, decoys etc. are hidden.

Stan's right, competition eventually works - unless government screws it up with laws that reduce competition.

I'm a CPA with 41 years experience and no employees. I fill a niche that the large CPA firms can't - I can under-price them with the same or better quality work and client service and I can provide much better quality service than the franchise tax services at not much more cost. I make a better than average income for the US while, at age 67, working no more than 1/2 time. Competition at work.

I can assure you than Stan understands what he's talking about (yes, I've had lunch with him several times) and competition will eventually fill the need. Hell, the internet is proof of this because I can buy things I need from almost anywhere in the world - I've bought a reloading tool direct from Italy and clothes from Northern Ireland and England.

Okay, I'd like to be convinced. What's eventually: five years, a generation---or two? You also qualify your claim with "unless government screws it up." Weak government regulations made The Great Recession. Ever know governments not to screw it up? "Eventually" and "unless governments screw it up" are a bridge too far for a claim that capitalism always fills a need.

How long did you wait for your 686? Ten minutes, a few weeks?

Odd you ask about screwups. It reads here like the current US gov is perfect on women's rights, race relations, the economy and foreign policy. Did I miss anything?

The only real good price I have seen at Cabela's was $54.99 for 250 rounds of Italian made Herter's 16ga ammo. That was when they opened up store near me. Occasionally they have sales like P-64 pistol in very good condition for $209 (nicely made compact pistol if you don't mind weight of steel and "25lb double-action trigger pull ), Soviet era Pistolet Makarova for $219, Steyr .270 rifle with rotary magazine plus ERA-Recknagel rings & bases for $900, $400 Model 12 shotgun, .... Those are examples of fair prices, but most of their Gun Library is hopelessly overpriced.

I happy to buy almost all my supplies from LGS:

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I agree now is the time to buy certain things. For example 50 pack of 9x19 FMJ is <$10, .40 about $13 and .45 $15.

What do you need convincing of King?

That you live in a time and place of unbelievable access to goods and services unlike ever seen before in the history of mankind?

That the average person is wealthier, in term of access to health care, food, shelter and a srptunning array of material goods from every corner of the globe, than ever before in history?

That the expansion of capitalism around the globe has lifted more people out of grinding poverty and starvation circumstances faster in the last 30 years than ever before?

Socialism didn't do that.
Government management didn't do that.
Five year plans didn't do that.

The relaxing of economic management by governments and unleashing the creativity and drive of individuals is what did it.